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Post by katy on Apr 23, 2021 19:51:37 GMT
Oh god Mod’s just posted his lunch prep on insta. And we all thought he was gonna influence Avril lol. Couples cookbook incoming.
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Post by melissavandella on Apr 23, 2021 20:03:25 GMT
EDIT: After reading other comments here, I'm surprised at all the rather negative critique. Not that anyone's "wrong", everybody is entitled to their opinion. I just hadn't expected to be in the minority here. I also didn't really catch anything especially bad about Avril's lip synching, guitar playing, or passion. I mean, she hasn't been lip synching or showing passion well for ages, so I hadn't expected it to be any better with this video anyway. But imo it's not worse than in any of her other recent music videos.
I was confused with people complaining about the production. Obviously this was meant to look like a performance video and not like an official video. I don't get the comparisons with the official videos of his previous singles. Production wise I don't see this being any worse than, let's say, Miley's Backyard Sessions. The only difference is that Mod couldn't bring his GF to sing live.
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Post by tommygun on Apr 23, 2021 20:39:12 GMT
The important question is... is she wearing a wig? 😂😂😂😂
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Post by ame · 雨 on Apr 23, 2021 21:32:14 GMT
The lipsync is terrible... she's like 70 miles aways from the mic, girl, you've been in the undustry for 20 years already and don't know you gotta be (AT LEAST) closer to the mic (?) anyway, her smiling in places where she was singing quiet and soft, and then no mouth movement in the high notes...(?) ugh...when did she get SO bad at lipsync?? seriously xD
The video was cute, modsun was a bit too much for me at the begining, i get the energy in the climax but at the begining he was kinda too agressive (??) lol, he seemed angry at avril or something xD
she could've done a better job let's be honest, at least he looks like he's signing...but she's not even trying...
and no, she's not wearing the wig, but it does seem she has a lighter shade of blonde, her darker roots are gone too... (not a big fan tbh) but maybe it's just the lighting that makes it so bright. (bUrNiNg bUrNiNg bUrNiNg BRIGHT!!! i stiiil bURRN 4 Yuuhh!!)
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 23, 2021 22:19:17 GMT
The video was cute, modsun was a bit too much for me at the begining, i get the energy in the climax but at the begining he was kinda too agressive (??) lol, he seemed angry at avril or something xD He's angry at Avril for not lip synching properly lol
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Post by TamyXD on Apr 23, 2021 22:35:02 GMT
I really wonder what happened to make her lip synching so bad over the years? She really didn't use to have this problem up until around AL era, as far as I remember. Ever since then, she seemed to be getting worse and worse at it. Now, she looks really awkward when lip synching; there's no passion, she seems really shy and as though she feels embarrassed for some reason, and it often doesn't fit the actual words that are being sung in the recording / she's off tempo or something. Like, what the hell happened?
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Post by Hellelujah on Apr 24, 2021 1:13:45 GMT
Ok now its time to let it go don’t think so, there’s a live performance coming. He has been saying this for a long time but continues to post about it, so there’s 2 things Avril is waiting, the performance and his album.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 24, 2021 2:44:16 GMT
I really wonder what happened to make her lip synching so bad over the years? She really didn't use to have this problem up until around AL era, as far as I remember. Ever since then, she seemed to be getting worse and worse at it. Now, she looks really awkward when lip synching; there's no passion, she seems really shy and as though she feels embarrassed for some reason, and it often doesn't fit the actual words that are being sung in the recording / she's off tempo or something. Like, what the hell happened? Even before then. Remember Alice?
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Apr 24, 2021 7:10:13 GMT
Ok now its time to let it go don’t think so, there’s a live performance coming. He has been saying this for a long time but continues to post about it, so there’s 2 things Avril is waiting, the performance and his album. Oh well here we go again then I just hope by june we won't hear about flames anymore
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Post by morphine on Apr 24, 2021 7:44:51 GMT
don’t think so, there’s a live performance coming. He has been saying this for a long time but continues to post about it, so there’s 2 things Avril is waiting, the performance and his album. Oh well here we go again then I just hope by june we won't hear about flames anymore All singers release their own music while collaborating with other singers or performing. I'm fed up. I hope Avril doesn't wait until summer when flames have twenty remixes, ten live performances and a tour on the way.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 24, 2021 8:44:37 GMT
I don't understand why everyone here thinks Avril has total control over when she releases. Her record company is not going to release until they are ready to do so. Avril could want to release now or want to wait until Flames is done in the end it doesn't matter. Her record company will decide. BMG may give her more freedom than RCA but they still won't release anything until they feel it's ready. She is not Taylor Swift, she can't release whenever she wants. She needs to have time for her team to get the promo schedule ready. After the disastrous way HAW was promoted, her new team might be trying to do better this time around and have a decent schedule together.
I really don't get all the hate because her new single wasn't out on the first day of Spring. She said Springish/ Summer from the beginning. This isn't like GL where she said it would come out in Nov 2009 and it came and went with no new music. It's not an AL or HAW situation YET. If Spring passes into Summer and Summer passes into Fall with no new music or explanation from Avril then we can say well shit it's just like before.
Yes, she could communicate more but right now what is she going to say as far as AL7 goes? If she says hey the single is coming May 20 and then it doesn't she's got a hoard of angry fans on her ass. If she waits until it's closer and the date is more concrete then it's better for everyone. I also don't blame her for not posting as much on social media right now. If she posts something nonmusic related trying to interact with fans, fans get mad, if she posts about Flames which she is a part of, fans get mad. Why bother posting at all?
I also think fans wouldn't be shitting on Flames or Mod Sun half as hard as they are if she had released a single recently. They are mad because they can't have what they want now and are taking it out on Mod Sun and wishing ill of his success. Saying things like let his song die, it't not popular enough to promote any more, etc when it's the best his music has done in his entire career. It's getting ridiculous. This is a big moment for him and if Avril wants to support that after all the success she has had then it's a good thing.
Yes, there are things Avril could improve on but if she isn't and it's a problem for you please find someone else who makes you happy! There are lots of good artists who know how to use social media. For me personally, I'm just happy to get music when I get it and not worry about the things I can't change about a person I don't even know. I don't know what's going on in her life. I don't know for sure if she is lazy or working super hard behind the scenes and not saying anything. Why assume the worst? I chose to buy her music anyway it's not like she makes me do it.
I'm also not saying that anyone who complains about Avril isn't a fan or whatever. I just think things are being way overblown right now. People are angry because of what's happened before, but we are not at that stage with this new album yet.
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Post by katy on Apr 24, 2021 12:58:02 GMT
Just to cover a few things on this thread -
I don’t think anyone’s annoyed the single isn’t out yet. People are frustrated she teased 4 months ago, built up some hype (not just with us, the media too!) then just went silent and let it all fade away. I think most of us would rather she’d started teasing like, now, if the single isn’t coming for another month or two. If she has to tease at all that is -I’d rather she just dropped a song out of the blue, but that’s personal preference. It is just the same process over and over with her, and it is frustrating because it’s something that it’s so easy to do better at. Whether the blame lies with her or her management is another matter.
Agree the comments re letting Flames die are unfair on Mod, though I think they’re more aimed at Avril moving on from it with her own music than expecting Mod to drop it. Personally I don’t see why she can’t do both, getting her music out whilst Flames has some attention on her would be a good move. I don’t think it’d affect Flames negatively, they have different fanbases and if anything her music will just draw more attention to their relationship/his song.
But yeah I do think a lot of it is that it’s just the same story every time. Album done - hype - silence - more silence - friends and/or latest boyfriend/husband tell us it’s SO GOOD - more silence - announces a release date 2 months away - more waiting - underwhelming release finally happens. Obviously some of that hasn’t happened..yet...but we all hoped it’d be different this time but it’s still a boring waiting game. I don’t blame anyone for being frustrated - remember this is someone who has only managed to put out 6 albums in a 20 year career - a couple of which are of questionable quality - and the last ten years have seen lacklustre performances, poor communication, constant delays and us all being mightily ripped off for a charity “show”. We’re all here because we love her and/or her music, but there’s no denying it’s not exactly a fulfilling experience being a fan of hers, at least in recent years, so that coupled with yet another waiting game is where a lot of the frustration is coming from.
Yeah we could find artists who are better at what we want them to do - i’d imagine a lot of us have (!), but we’re all still here because Avril obviously holds a special place in our hearts and the things she needs to do better at are so basic it’s really not unreasonable to expect her to do them - both for her fans and her career going forward.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 24, 2021 13:04:20 GMT
All of that is true but they also hyped this video for several weeks, saying they wanted it to be something “big” and it ended up just being an average performance video. Most people are here to support Avril, not Mod. She can’t expect every fan to care about his music just because she’s on one song of his. I don’t blame him for continuing to promote the song as it’s still climbing the charts, but I also don’t blame Avril fans for being sick of it 4 months later especially when we are waiting for new Avril music.
I just hope maybe by May we might finally have the single or at least a release date, June at the absolute latest. Like come on, she said this album was done like 2 months ago. Yeah she doesn’t have full control over the release, but I also think BMG doesn’t have as much power as people think either. As far as I know they really act more like a distributor. The only acceptable excuse I could see is that there maybe a delay getting physical copies printed, which is where she tends to sell better. But idk other artists don’t seem to have issues getting CDs made. All these excuses people come up with don’t seem to happen with other artists, big or small. It’s looking like the same pattern over and over and eventually the common denominator is Avril, not the label, not the collaborators, not her boyfriends.
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Post by biggerwow on Apr 24, 2021 17:30:37 GMT
Idk about CDs but vinyl companies are backed up according to artists like The Killers. If this is happening to her she could say something about it.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 24, 2021 17:38:54 GMT
^ I don't doubt manufacturing companies are backed up (I know all of Taylor's vinyls are currently on pre-order for several months probably for that reason and she surprise dropped 2 albums), but I don't think that should be a factor for them delaying the release of the album, or at least the first single. She is an album seller more than a streamer, so I get why they'd want to be able to maximize her album sales, but fans also can't sit here for a year waiting until manufacturing can pick up either. And I imagine Avril doesn't want to sit that long on an album that's already done and she's already seemingly moved on to the next one. Mod keeps saying a physical release of his album will come eventually, but for now they've at least released it digitally. Why can't they just do the same for Avril, or have the vinyls on pre-order?
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