Leaked Songs Discussion Thread

Yeah,okay but he mentioned fan treatment as well.She literally told her fans to attack other people on Twitter.She had multiple versions of one album(think it was Folklore...she's such a big capitalist and money hungry).I get these are business people but she shamelessly shows how desperate she is.She's a poor singer/vocalist too and relies on heavy production during her shows.Her dad's money and power/inluence and the media hype her up.Avril,during her peak,got bashed and yet made a name for herself.

Avril performed "Birdie" for the fans there too,so not entirely bad at all.Her performances were strong.
During the self titled and Goodbye Lullaby tours,she did listen to fans and played songs they wanted like 'Give You What You Like','Falling Fast' and 'Hello Heartache.'
She brought back 'Nobody's Home' too in 2014.
She performed 'Everybody Hurts' with Evan Taubenfield in 2011 and brought back 'Hot' and 'I Can Do Better' on the Blackstar Tour 2011.

Yeah but Avril doesn't around telling fans to attack other celebrities or promoting some fake white feminism.Avril's father didn't buy her a career and bought the media to promote a positive image of Avril either.Taylor always acts some narcissist person.She has always performed poorly live as well.She lip sync some TV performances in 2019...but nobody called her out because of course the media promotes her in a positive way.She moved to Nashville and faked a country accent.Avril seems geniunely nice and is.Talent,beauty and humbleness....that's Avril.She respects her fans more than Taylor.Taylor bullied people in high school as well.

Obviously both artists have done good and bad things but Avril is not as controversial as Taylor.She was always nice and has only become more humble with age.Avril's app is also optional.For sure both Avril and Taylor have done good and bad things but for Taylor,she has some controversy every year...unlike Avril.Avril isn't as bad as most celebrities.She's far more talented than Taylor and a lot of celebrities of today.

Fam I don’t even know how to tell you that most of what you’ve asserted here is either plain incorrect or grossly exaggerated. Taylor has never explicitly “told” her fans to attack anyone. Go find me a tweet or video clip of her saying that, I’ll wait.

Taylor’s dad invested a 3% stake in Big Machine but Taylor made her career on her own. You could argue that Avril also had a huge financial lift when she started by having the label pay for everything too. But they both worked hard and they’re both talented. They made their careers due to working hard and writing their own music. Taylor’s career would have been over after a couple albums if all it was based on was money.

Taylor doesn’t lip synch. She sings with a track a lot of the time but she doesn’t lip synch. Avril sings with a track as well. Avril even did lip synch at the Macys parade in 2011 but I’m sure you will find some excuse to defend that one.

I’m sure they both love their fans but PLEASE. Avril can’t even be bothered to add a single song to her already short setlist that fans are literally begging to hear, meanwhile Taylor has literally invited her fans to her HOUSE to hear new music before release and made them food. There is no comparison. You can hate Taylor all you want but Taylor has shown her fans way more love and appreciation than Avril, hands down.

You sound like you’re super jealous of Taylor’s success and think Avril deserves what Taylor has. Maybe if she worked harder, she would. But frankly Avril doesn’t work nearly that hard.

Taylor sings with a track and so does Avril,yes but Taylor has blatantly lip synced as well.It was TV performance from 2019...I'll send it if I find it again.Avril lip synced in 2011 because RCA Records told her to and yes,that's bad but I hope it doesn't happen again.Avril invited the Special Olympics athlete to her concerts in 2014 as well.She gave a free ticket to a fan with Down Syndrome for the 2019 Head Above Water tour.Why would I be jealous when Avril's far more talented? I don't care about Taylor Swift.I've met plenty of people who met Taylor and had a bad experience in real life.Avril had one in 2014 in Brazil but she openly said she was involved in some incidents she shouldn't have been involved in and yes,Avril has had a History of security issues at concerts and has been attacked too.She's still honest about it.

They’re both talented in different things so saying one is more talented than the other doesn’t make sense. Avril is known for her voice, Taylor for her songwriting. Nobody is saying Taylor is a better vocalist than Avril, and nobody can say Avril is a better songwriter than Taylor. Doesn’t make any sense to compare their talents when their talent is in two different things.

I just think it’s nice they get on and obviously respect eachother - Avril hasn’t always had so many friends in the industry, especially female ones, and it’s nice to see.