Leaked Songs Discussion Thread

Of course they’re not going to address it. That would just bring more attention to the leaks for those who don’t already know about it.

Check out this article. Not saying it’s the case for every leak, but especially considering the timing that we got all those HAW leaks earlier this year, there is an argument for it.

www.factmag.com/2015/01/29/inside-album-leaks-bjork-vulnicura-madonna-rebel-heart/


Fans get a sense of knowing something exclusive that the rest of the artist’s audience don’t. This thread is a perfect example of that.

And at the end of the day, sure some of the choruses are catchy (ie Joker) but can you objectively sit back and listen to these songs and say the world is missing out on masterpieces, or are we thinking that because it’s something we don’t have?

I personally think these songs are alright, but can also see why they wouldn’t want them officially used.

I’ve said it about Taylor before in another thread: it’s cool how much music she releases, but a lot of it is redundant or not all that good. She just seems more genuine about song writing.

For LS outtakes, songs like Shut Up or Eternally aren’t bad, but there isn’t much of a wow factor to them outside of them not being officially released. Shut Up could easily have been on a Veronica’s or Aly and Aj album.

And the fact that an artist doesn’t make much money off streaming a song, these days. I feel that someone with the stature of Avril (or Taylor), it doesn’t really affect their income much either way.

Avril also is on a smaller label. It would be interesting to find out the costs of posting a song on a streaming service, and then what percentage of income goes towards the band members, mixers, producers etc.

At the end of the day, i just get the vibe she wasn’t that into these tracks and that’s that. 🤷

And then someone from the record company sells these “leaks” to make a quick buck. Maybe Avril really DID sell these under the table. We cracked it!

But yea, my cousin is in a somewhat respected folk band, nowhere near the levels of Avril, but they’ve toured across Canada, US, and Europe, and he hates that they’re on Spotify now because they make 0.0004 cents per stream, I think?

I seem to remember Taylor advocating a while back, too. But can’t remember the details on that.

But yes, at the end of the day I agree with you about the final product of LS having better songs. They all work well together and flow with each other.

I think the verses for Joker are a bit too poppy for this record, and Eternally could well have morphed into Kiss Me. Who really knows- and it’s fun to speculate!

We all know how Avril is already scrutinized by the public (and her fan base) for her lyrics, and these unreleased tracks show some cringy stuff:

You’re such a minute man
You make me wanna cut my hair, if I shaved it off,
Would you even care?

I don’t know… I feel like if these ended up on the original LS they would also have been fuel for the argument that she hasn’t “matured”

As much fun as it was listening to all these leaks, I do hope her team is more aware from now on. I don't wanna see an entire era being ruined by an early leak. Like, imagine an entire album leaking before she could even announce the release date? (Yes, it happenned with blackbear latest album). They need a better security system if nothing of this was intentional

I was thinking about it, and maybe it simply just wasn’t up for the deluxe at the time and that’s why it wasn’t in the group of songs that were put in the cloud storage that got leaked. I remember Avril saying the song was supposed to be for YB’s album for a while.
Who knows though. The things in that cloud folder thing were random cuz wasn’t that where that bois lie demo came from, too?