Leaked Songs Discussion Thread

Debree has all of them. Just search for Avril

I said this in another thread but felt like it could be said here as well:

I know I’ve seen complaints on here before with how much more Taylor gives back to her fans, but her fans also seem to back her up and respect her more. Didn’t they advocate against her leaks or something?

As with anything, a relationship between fans and artists are two way.

These leaks were either songs that we weren’t supposed to hear or songs that Avril decided not to use, so show some respect for that. The only thing fans are doing by complaining about the leaks on social media and to her team are showing entitlement.

After reading another user's post earlier in this thread, I have been working on not listening to the leaked songs. I didn't think about how Avril might have felt, or if it was even a song she wanted to release. I was only excited to hear something new.

However, Teenage Nightmare has potential. I loved the theme and I feel we got a song about how successful she feels - even if she isn't in the spotlight anymore. It seems she's proud to be the one that paved the way for other artists such as Paramore, Olivia Rodrigo, and Billie Eilish.

I mentioned it because you brought up artist to fan relationship…. I am explaining why Taylor’s fans are more loyal, because she’s given them reasons to be.

Yes, fans don’t really have the right to be complaining about songs we weren’t even supposed to hear but I think what gets a lot of fans is we know what Avril’s potential could be if she just put in the effort. Whether it is with her albums, songwriting, deluxe packaging, tour setlist, vocals, merch… oftentimes it feels like she just misses the mark. Like IMO Mercury in Retrograde could have been a fine song if they just added another chorus to the end. IAM would be even more stellar live if she aimed for the high notes (and I get why she doesn’t, but that’s irrelevant to what I’m trying to say). It’s like she wants to put in the bare minimum effort with things and is satisfied with whatever she comes up with without going back to the drawing table for rewrites or retakes, etc. It’s frustrating to see when her stuff could be elevated so much more by just making a couple small adjustments, but fact of the matter is, she won’t. And we have no idea why, so we only assume she’s just lazy.

There’s certain stuff we might just have to accept she will never change on, like the short, all-singles setlist or her basic af lyrics. But I think just shrugging it off and trying to be content with anything and everything she puts out is basically giving her permission to be complacent and sends a message to her that we’re willing to pay money for the bare minimum effort from her. A lot of fans have said they won’t be going to her concerts anymore if it’s just going to be the same setlist every time. Once her bottom line starts to become affected, that is the only time I might see her actually change something. I agree that there are some fans who seem like they are never content with anything she does and only love revisiting her past work. At that point I don’t see what they’re sticking around for. But I don’t think most of us fall into that category. Most of us grew up with her and have stuck with her for so long that it’s hard to just let go. I think we all want to believe she has it in her to do better. The Love Sux album and era were all proof of that and I think we’d like to see her keep going with that passion and that momentum.

I'm too lazy to research but it would be interesting to see if anyone from the same label or anyone else that worked with her people had the same issues.
I dont believe in the theory that the leaks were intentional. My theory is that her small label was never really attacked but now she is the biggest name and someone just hacked into the server or cloud or whatever. I think the security standards might have been too low for a big artist like her