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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 10, 2024 12:46:15 GMT
Right? She has been saying this essentially since like last year lol
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Post by shessolucky on Sept 10, 2024 14:57:38 GMT
It could mean all or nothing tbh. xD its very vague. She could mean album rollout ... or just some collabs as last year, or anything else like planning tour dates. Maybe even something else music carreer related like the documentary. It basically only means... she doesnt plan to take a year off.
Edith: Ah, lol, I forgot what she actually said. But still could mean anything in my opinion.
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Post by blackmage on Sept 11, 2024 0:53:56 GMT
I think her take is that she needs to wrap up the concept. She’s gotta hit the studio, check which songs still click and which don’t, so she'll probably have to produce more tracks and have the album concept fully mapped out before releasing it. She knows Love Sux was well received critically because of how thematically and sonically coherent it is, so it makes sense if that's what she means. But sadly I don’t think she necessarily means it. She said the exact same thing about the HAW album, and by the time she released it, she admitted she hadn’t listened to the whole thing beforehand. And while it has some gems, the album is kinda messy - not AL level, but definitely her second messiest (imho).
I think we are still on the same page but with a footnote: she's now focusing on the tour (as expected by the most of us) and she only plans to work on something new for next year.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Sept 11, 2024 10:22:10 GMT
She has a lot of new material. Talking just about the songs that are floating around out there for the supposedly album sessions, you can already have an idea. I honestly don't expect the album to be as cohesive as Love Sux. Avril probably wants to try out different things too, so the album will be kind of messy. I just hope it doesn't have one part as weak as the summer songs on AL or the lovey-dovey tracks from HAW. It can be diverse and still be good, she just needs to know how to pick those songs and arrange them on the tracklist.
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Post by mondragon on Sept 12, 2024 21:15:48 GMT
Not really AL8 related but how has Katy Perry been given the vanguard award at the VMA’s before Avril? Do you have to be American? I feel like they should have given her it in 2022.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 12, 2024 23:41:29 GMT
Hmmm I feel like Avril hasn’t had a truly iconic music video since TBDT era. Maybe that’s why?
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Post by blackmage on Sept 13, 2024 0:10:40 GMT
I don’t think so.
JLo has won a vanguard and honestly her videography isn’t impressive and it’s so outdated imho (no shade or stan intended!). The point is that you team have to make a move as well. Lifetime achievements are not 100% based on your own credit. It’s not surprising they always give it in convenient moments like before artists releasing a new album (Nicki, Katy, Shakira, etc).
Not saying it’s 100% arranged (cause most of them deserved it) but it’s not 100% based on having an outstanding videography… cause there’s a lot of artists deserving as well.
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Post by blackmage on Sept 13, 2024 0:13:41 GMT
Not really AL8 related but how has Katy Perry been given the vanguard award at the VMA’s before Avril? Do you have to be American? I feel like they should have given her it in 2022. You don’t have to be American cause Shakira won it last year. Nicki is from Trinidad & Tobago though she moved to the USA as a kid, as far as I know.
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Post by UnderAlexSkin on Sept 13, 2024 2:13:57 GMT
Hmmm I feel like Avril hasn’t had a truly iconic music video since TBDT era. Maybe that’s why? Well, probably you're right especially in terms of views and popularity among general audience, but how about the music videos for WTH, Smile, HTNGU, HAW, IFILWTD or even Bite Me at least? Imho, they could've been considered as truly iconic, why not? =)
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Post by elina on Sept 13, 2024 8:44:59 GMT
Hmmm I feel like Avril hasn’t had a truly iconic music video since TBDT era. Maybe that’s why? Well, probably you're right especially in terms of views and popularity among general audience, but how about the music videos for WTH, Smile, HTNGU, HAW, IFILWTD or even Bite Me at least? Imho, they could've been considered as truly iconic, why not? =) I think to be iconic they would have to be recognized by the general public and not just fans. And honestly I haven't watched any of her music videos more than once in a long time. It is probably more difficult these days to get music videos to go viral because there is no MTV or similar anymore that "everyone" watches.
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Post by UnderAlexSkin on Sept 13, 2024 8:53:28 GMT
Well, probably you're right especially in terms of views and popularity among general audience, but how about the music videos for WTH, Smile, HTNGU, HAW, IFILWTD or even Bite Me at least? Imho, they could've been considered as truly iconic, why not? =) I think to be iconic they would have to be recognized by the general public and not just fans. And honestly I haven't watched any of her music videos more than once in a long time. It is probably more difficult these days to get music videos to go viral because there is no MTV or similar anymore that "everyone" watches. Yeah, that's true about MTV + Tik Tok generation unfortunately addicted to short videos as well
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Post by orangesky on Sept 13, 2024 9:49:45 GMT
Didn't Avril have the first mv to hit a billion views on YouTube with GF? And the first mv filmed in 3D for WTH? Those things could be considered iconic. Her more interesting mvs have largely been in the less well known parts of her career though. At her peak most of her mvs were quite simple which was her style at the time.
She could do well to make videos that will increase her videos streams though (don't youtube streams count to charts now?) by hiding easter eggs to make people rewatch and catch them, putting out multiple mvs for the same song. It's something kpop does so well to boost sales tbh
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Post by millenialfan87 on Sept 13, 2024 11:10:20 GMT
I don’t think so. JLo has won a vanguard and honestly her videography isn’t impressive and it’s so outdated imho (no shade or stan intended!). The point is that you team have to make a move as well. Lifetime achievements are not 100% based on your own credit. It’s not surprising they always give it in convenient moments like before artists releasing a new album (Nicki, Katy, Shakira, etc). Not saying it’s 100% arranged (cause most of them deserved it) but it’s not 100% based on having an outstanding videography… cause there’s a lot of artists deserving as well. Here is the interesting part. Both Katy Perry and Avril Lavigne are the same age (1984) but Katy won the Video Vanguard instead of Avril. Technically, Katy came on the music scene first in 2001 with her Christian rock album even though it wasn't successful. I feel like with Lavigne's influence in the pop punk music, and how she was an anomaly in the industry at that time of female singers who didn't fit the box, I feel like Avril deserve the Video Vanguard Award
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 13, 2024 12:41:39 GMT
By “iconic” videos I meant more about the ones even non fans know, like her ones from the first 3 albums. Even non fans know the videos like Complicated, Sk8er Boi, MHE, and GF. I don’t think as many of the general public know any beyond that. WTH maybe, definitely HK but that’s famous for the wrong reasons. HAW era went largely unnoticed and LS was more for the fans than GP. That’s my take anyway.
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Post by falling on Sept 13, 2024 12:44:39 GMT
I could philosophize a lot on the topic of "iconic", but I'm too lazy 🥴
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