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Post by blackmage on Sept 13, 2024 12:45:28 GMT
So, the Vanguard Award isn’t just for artists who still have music videos impacting today or are well-known to the general public recently.
I can’t remember any recent music videos from JLo, Missy Elliott, or even the more recent ones from Katy Perry and they all won this award recently.
It's about your legacy and what you’ve built through your videos. It's a Lifetime Achievement, not about your later stuff. As someone said, Avril had the first viral video in the digital era with GF, WTH was the first music video shot in 3D, and Complicated had one of the biggest budgets for a music video at the time it was released, even being ranked on some lists as one of the most iconic MVs (like Billboard). Not to mention the aesthetics she put into them, which influenced so many artists. You can see references to her music videos from artists like Billie and Olivia, who referenced Complicated and Don't Tell Me in some of their own videos.
Not saying this just because I’m a fan. Honestly, I don't even think Avril's videography is among the best in the industry. Maybe she’s a B or C tier.
But she’s got some iconic moments and accolades that are impressive. Especially when you look at the history of the recipients she's more than deserving.
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Post by blackmage on Sept 13, 2024 12:48:33 GMT
To be fair, I think Avril deserves the Global Icon Award from the VMAs more.
It's a less debatable award for her status, since she has a huge international fanbase outside North America, and it’s also a Lifetime Achievement honor.
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Post by millenialfan87 on Sept 13, 2024 15:27:03 GMT
So, the Vanguard Award isn’t just for artists who still have music videos impacting today or are well-known to the general public recently. I can’t remember any recent music videos from JLo, Missy Elliott, or even the more recent ones from Katy Perry and they all won this award recently. It's about your legacy and what you’ve built through your videos. It's a Lifetime Achievement, not about your later stuff. As someone said, Avril had the first viral video in the digital era with GF, WTH was the first music video shot in 3D, and Complicated had one of the biggest budgets for a music video at the time it was released, even being ranked on some lists as one of the most iconic MVs (like Billboard). Not to mention the aesthetics she put into them, which influenced so many artists. You can see references to her music videos from artists like Billie and Olivia, who referenced Complicated and Don't Tell Me in some of their own videos. Not saying this just because I’m a fan. Honestly, I don't even think Avril's videography is among the best in the industry. Maybe she’s a B or C tier. But she’s got some iconic moments and accolades that are impressive. Especially when you look at the history of the recipients she's more than deserving. Ive got to admit that alot of Avril's videos are not exactly the most innovative artistically, but as one of the early pioneers of women in the pop-punk genre who re-invent herself with each albums, i think she deserves it. Hmmm
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Sept 13, 2024 20:04:12 GMT
Artists usually get those awards when they have an era going on, it's all about marketing and a good team behind it all. It's not exactly who deserves it or not. Avril's team took years to finally have an understanding of how to treat her legacy and profit from it, and even now they don't yet explore the maximum potential they could.
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 13, 2024 21:04:22 GMT
There's a lot of deserving artists for the Vanguard Award. It seems to get the most attention out of all the legacy awards so I hope Avril gets it too. Right now, I'm pretty happy with the acknowledgements she's been getting (Walk of fame, hall of fame, Junos, etc.) and I believe there's more to come. My opinion, it's her team that needs to try and get it for her because I doubt they're just giving these out. But at least it's not like in the 2010s where she barely got any attention. Those were some sad times.
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Post by blackmage on Sept 13, 2024 22:49:34 GMT
It still shocks me that she hasn’t won the Lifetime Achievement Award at the JUNOs (yet).
"The JUNO International Achievement Award recognizes Canadian artists who have attained exemplary success on the world stage."
It’s only been given to artists like:
Alanis Morissette Céline Dion Shania Twain Bryan Adams Sarah McLachlan Drake Arcade Fire
But then in 2022, they awarded Shawn Mendes, who made his international debut only about 7 years before the award. He’s such a talented artist, but how have they not considered Avril in a year when she released a then new album and hit 20 years in the industry, with such a solid campaign to back this anniversary?
I think a big reason is that an artist’s team plays a huge role.
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Post by mondragon on Sept 14, 2024 14:17:49 GMT
It still shocks me that she hasn’t won the Lifetime Achievement Award at the JUNOs (yet). "The JUNO International Achievement Award recognizes Canadian artists who have attained exemplary success on the world stage." It’s only been given to artists like: Alanis Morissette Céline Dion Shania Twain Bryan Adams Sarah McLachlan Drake Arcade Fire But then in 2022, they awarded Shawn Mendes, who made his international debut only about 7 years before the award. He’s such a talented artist, but how have they not considered Avril in a year when she released a then new album and hit 20 years in the industry, with such a solid campaign to back this anniversary? I think a big reason is that an artist’s team plays a huge role. Wow Shawn Mendes. That’s pretty shocking. I would say all of the above artists are deserved recipients of that award. Apart from maybe Drake. I’m surprised they haven’t give that to Bieber. Not a fan but people seem to think he’s a huge artist when he’s pretty bad. When I think of Canadian artists my mind doesnt automatically jump to Shawn Mendes. Avril definitely and not just cos I’m a fan. Honest!
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 14, 2024 15:08:10 GMT
Besides those, how has she not won a Grammy yet?
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Post by orangesky on Sept 14, 2024 16:35:48 GMT
Besides those, how has she not won a Grammy yet? It's kinda wild that she didn't get one win out of 8 nominations during LG. She's not really played the Grammy game though, campaigning for things, as far as we can tell. Gf and TBDT should have probably had nominations for how big they were in 2007. Certain things are also just because she wouldn't be available. The vanguard award, for example, usually wants you to go and perform a medley which she couldn't do because she's on tour over the vmas this year. She definitely should get the Junos lifetime achievement award though. No one can argue she isn't deserving and the Junos are usually good to her
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