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Post by Anna on Dec 2, 2024 20:42:51 GMT
Really great news! I was really surprised when she suggested the greatest hits tour might not get its continuation, after selling out so many venues! It’s great to see she’s milking the legacy label she got, simple plan is so good at it, they tour the world with so many artists. Such a good match.
I won’t ever believe the tour could stop her from releasing new music - the previous leg ended in mid September, the second one starts in May. She’s plenty of time to enter the studio, finish what she’s been saying she started years ago. Or write a new album, especially since we all know she keeps scrapping the songs and her albums get a lot of last minute fillers.
I prefer to see her on tour than locked at home and appearing once upon a time when she has a new merch or other stuff to sell.
There’s still Asia, Australia, South America and Europe to tour, it won’t stop before 2027 if ever, she can easily move into TBDT anniversary and keep going but I don’t mind!
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Post by biggerwow on Dec 2, 2024 20:53:18 GMT
No one's going to mention the poster? I like it. I'm glad she didn't use the other pic again.
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Post by gabbox on Dec 2, 2024 20:53:43 GMT
I'm not "surprised" I just thought the "retirement phase from dropping new albums and become a legacy artist from now on to indefinite date" would be later let's say but I doubt this is what is happening at the moment and I'm scared cause I didn't properly figure out until today.
What I'm trying to say is that she entered the GH era, and I'm not sure if or when she'll move to a new one. Maybe I'm also okay with this don't get me wrong, I just wasn't prepared.
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Post by afonso16 on Dec 2, 2024 20:55:21 GMT
I’m not really sure why anyone is surprised she’s tapping into the “legacy” artist brand. 7 albums may not be a lot but she is 40 and been at this since she was a teen. Her battle with Lyme didn’t help, it maybe even caused permanent health effects we don’t know about. The music industry has greatly changed from 10-20 years ago. Music has a much shorter shelf life than it ever has thanks to social media and short attention spans, with too many artists competing for such a small amount of attention/airtime. Music sales are down except for vinyls and unless your name is Taylor Swift. The pandemic put a massive pause on the live music industry. The fact Avril has even managed to roll with all these changes as well as she has and is still here is pretty impressive when you think about it. I think she genuinely enjoys being in the studio (maybe a little too much, to her own detriment) and enjoys creating new songs. She will always be doing that, no doubt. But I think fans need to accept the old days are gone and her album releases will look different than how they used to be. She doesn’t necessarily need to put out a new album every 2 years. The tours don’t necessarily need to support the new album. She IS a legacy artist and she’s likely making a ton more money doing it too. For all we know she could decide to launch a Vegas residency next. At least with the tours there are still opportunities for fans to see her in their area, whereas I can’t see a lot of fans traveling specifically to Vegas. But yes, as she gets older, it’s to be expected her career is going to look different, likely less albums, less new songs on tour, etc. We all have fond memories of her from our childhoods and the fun of seeing a new, fresh era, but I think we have to let go of that image of her and accept she’s getting older, doesn’t have the same label support she once did, and the industry as a whole is way different. Even Taylor is slowing down with her album releases, she doesn’t do as much promo for them anymore because she doesn’t need to. She puts out a few videos and calls it a day. The money is in touring. I think it's just jarring how we go from quicker releases (both AL and LS came out fairly quickly in hindsight) to her taking forever to release an album. I was hoping that once she found her people with Travis' label and Feldman (as she herself said), things would start happening much faster. But I guess that's on me for setting expectations for someone as predictably unpredictable as Avril, lol. I saw Avril live for the first time this year, and I loved it. I was glad she came slightly closer to my country for once, but for most people who don’t live in America or simply can’t afford to attend one of her concerts, her touring again isn't all that exciting. Personally, I’d much rather have new music.
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Post by katy on Dec 2, 2024 21:05:15 GMT
We all get annoyed with the long periods of silence from her now she’s actually doing something people don’t like that either 😅 a tour doesn’t mean we aren’t getting music. we all spent this year thinking what a wasted opportunity it was to not put out new music alongside the tour when she was so in people’s minds - there’s no reason she can’t do it next year instead. if she doesn’t then whatever, I’d like new music but at least she’s doing something!
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Post by doubtfire on Dec 2, 2024 21:13:32 GMT
How does one get on the “artist presale” for tomorrow?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 2, 2024 21:15:08 GMT
Yes, she is getting older it’s true, but Madonna is 66 and she is still making album and hits (not in the last years) but she is older than Avril. The fact is that Avril Lavigne is too lazy and another GH tour it’s a really boring idea, but I am not surprised because I didn’t expect anything from her 😆 What’s the point to do another GH tour with same set list, same outfit, same stage and also same guest like simple plan. At this point she could easily do a new album and male a new tour with her older stuff and 2/3 new songs. We don’t actually know yet that the 2025 leg will be exactly identical to the 2024 leg but even if it’s mostly similar, she’s going to do it because she makes bank with basically little effort. Her HAW tour saw lukewarm results, it was her first comeback tour since Lyme and branded around a new album, she was playing way smaller venues than now and hardly filling them. Fans might view GH tour as “boring” and “lazy” but it’s a moneymaker and it’s why artists do them. Her GH tour sold out arenas which she hasn’t done since TBDT days. If you had the option to put in tons of work to make a new album and tour and make less money and play to smaller audiences, or simply play all your hits to packed, sold out arenas, making millions per show, which would you choose?
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Post by gabbox on Dec 2, 2024 21:16:06 GMT
We all get annoyed with the long periods of silence from her now she’s actually doing something people don’t like that either 😅 a tour doesn’t mean we aren’t getting music. we all spent this year thinking what a wasted opportunity it was to not put out new music alongside the tour when she was so in people’s minds - there’s no reason she can’t do it next year instead. if she doesn’t then whatever, I’d like new music but at least she’s doing something! My thought is that I guess she doesn't feel the need to release new songs, her tours haven't revolved around new material since 10 years now at least. Her label probably doesn't even want to invest that Much money on new albums which then barely enter charts. She's not relevant anymore as she was once. But she has a big, huge, power: she's super strong with her old hits. Surprisingly, she still has a huge fandom who love her. It's not common that a 00s artist still has such a loyal fandoms and sell out arenas worldwide. She's still a queen for real and also very lucky imo! Just.. I can't see new material in the horizon, I think (but I hope I'm wrong) she's not releasing anytime soon. She needed Love Sux to let her re-enter inside the pop punk scene and shake off the HAW - Disease thing from her image, now she's into her "Icon" as a whole and that's all she needs to sell out arenas and go on. She makes a lot of money with little to none new investments. I hope I am wrong, but I just prefer to wrongly "look negative" from other perspective but preserve my mental health than being illusional thinking she will drop a new album in 2026 or 2027 and then finding out she won't and she will live from now on from the legacy image she (greatly) created around herself. Also, from a loyal fan perspective since day 1, I absolutely love the GH tour and I'm fine with it, I just hope she comes out with something new cause the idea of seeing the same show from now to the next years will necessary look boring after a while, even with all the love of the world. Again, I hope I haven't come off negative and made myself understood
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Post by orangesky on Dec 2, 2024 21:17:47 GMT
Some people need to understand they're fans of someone 20+ years into their career, not 2. People would also be calling her lazy and complaining if she constantly released new music but never toured. This GH tour has been hugely successful for her by every metric - sales, profits, reputation etc - so she'd be stupid not to keep going as most of us expected she would. These are literally only dates from mid-May to the end of June so there's no need to write off the whole year. There's no reason she couldn't put out an album and then continue the tour, it doesn't need it's own tour.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Dec 2, 2024 21:20:45 GMT
I don't feel like she's entering "retire mode" at all, I think she just got excited because we all know she was never a tour force, so this tour being so successful after so many years of terrible choices, like opening for newer artists, for example, made her finally put some thought into investing more in that.
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Post by gabbox on Dec 2, 2024 21:21:10 GMT
I don't feel like she's entering "retire mode" at all, I think she just got excited because we all know she was never a tour force, so this tour being so successful after so many years of terrible choices, like opening for newer artists, for example, made her finally put some thought into investing more in that. I really hope you're right
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Post by katy on Dec 2, 2024 21:21:20 GMT
We all get annoyed with the long periods of silence from her now she’s actually doing something people don’t like that either 😅 a tour doesn’t mean we aren’t getting music. we all spent this year thinking what a wasted opportunity it was to not put out new music alongside the tour when she was so in people’s minds - there’s no reason she can’t do it next year instead. if she doesn’t then whatever, I’d like new music but at least she’s doing something! My thought is that I guess she doesn't feel the need to release new songs, her tours haven't revolved around new material since 10 years now at least. Her label probably doesn't even want to invest that Much money on new albums which then barely enter charts. She's not relevant anymore as she was once. But she has a big, huge, power: she's super strong with her old hits. Surprisingly, she still has a huge fandom who love her. It's not common that a 00s artist still has such a loyal fandoms and sell out arenas worldwide. She's still a queen for real and also very lucky imo! Just.. I can't see new material in the horizon, I think (but I hope I'm wrong) she's not releasing anytime soon. She needed Love Sux to let her re-enter inside the pop punk scene and shake off the HAW - Disease thing from her image, now she's into her "Icon" as a whole and that's all she needs to sell out arenas and go on. She makes a lot of money with little to none new investments. I hope I am wrong, but I just prefer to wrongly "look negative" from other perspective but preserve my mental health than being illusional thinking she will drop a new album in 2026 or 2027 and then finding out she won't and she will live from now on from the legacy image she (greatly) created around herself. Also, from a loyal fan perspective since day 1, I absolutely love the GH tour and I'm fine with it, I just hope she comes out with something new cause the idea of seeing the same show from now to the next years will necessary look boring after a while, even with all the love of the world. Again, I hope I haven't come off negative and made myself understood I get it - my attitude with Avril re new music now is I’ll believe it when it’s up for preorder 😅 until then it’s best to just assume nothings coming soon lol! if it does then that’s a bonus.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 2, 2024 21:23:05 GMT
I also think it’s indicative something happened to the progress of AL8. She has been working on it since late 2022 and kept saying it was almost done and she was about ready to put it out. Then the Mod breakup happened, that no doubt inspired some of the songs. Followed by Tygagate, Rap Star, etc. then that crashed and burned. Followed by new secret mystery man. So much has happened in the last couple of years it’s no wonder she probably wasn’t feeling what she started with and trashed it all. I think the album is taking longer than she thought it would, or she just can’t stop writing, or has so many songs she can’t figure out how to package them together, so in the meantime she is touring again since the first round was such a success and it’s a way for her to keep earning revenue and stay relevant as she continues to refine AL8. I don’t doubt something is in the works but it’s clear something interrupted its progress.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Dec 2, 2024 21:37:36 GMT
In my mind, she's releasing something for the album at the end of the year, then the album in 2026, and touring again late that year or in 2027, and then she will piss off part of the fans by releasing an anniversary edition for TBDT while UMS barely got a little video for Spotify. 😂
I'm kind of ok on how shes dealing with AL8 now, I guess what used to really piss me off was the teasing leading to nothing, so her being so quiet is really having an impact on how well I'm dealing with the wait this time. I hope she stays that way.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 2, 2024 22:59:22 GMT
Just saw one of the dates is at Madison Square Garden. This is HUGE for her! I think her team definitely saw how well this tour sold and wanted to see if they could get her in venues like this, especially after she got to play it with MGK, she probably wanted to see if she could sell it out herself. She has never played a headlining show at MSG even in her peak.
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