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Post by blackmage on May 24, 2024 12:51:32 GMT
A few hours later, I'm still thinking about the Instagram comments, and I don't think they will affect her that much. Maybe if she got booed at the concert, then she would change. I've seen many people defending her, saying these comments are just from fans in Brazil who weren't even there, while others are saying things like, "At least they got the chance to see her, unlike me here in Australia." Some people said they liked the experience yesterday, and there were other positive comments like that. Even though the majority of the comments are negative and harsh (and perhaps deserved), the fact that they come from worldwide fans who were not there weakens the narrative. She needs to face in-concert pressure to change, like when Japanese fans complained last year, and she adjusted a few things for the next leg.
I think this pressure will come stronger as soon as the tour kicks the US and gets more press coverage. I don't know if she will change tho.
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Post by blackmage on May 24, 2024 13:07:10 GMT
First concerts normally have problems and can be used as "testers," and maybe that's why she decided to start the last two tours in Canada where she feels more comfortable and it's less likely to have backlash or bad press coverage. So, I understand the soundcheck problem as somehow expected or also the fact that she a bit more stiff on stage than usual. I think these things will change a little, especially the production part, but I DON'T think she will make major changes in the setlist or on her own performance style.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on May 24, 2024 13:19:31 GMT
Apparentely she deleted this and many other honest comments on her post... Although comments are obviously public, I covered one username and posted here her thoughts.  ...But I said before, here's what will happen on few days: 1 - Avril will make a post or an Instagram story asking for fans which songs they wanna hear 2 - Everyone will beg for "Nobody's Home" 3 - She'll perform it bored as fuck with almost no rehearsal 4 - Fans will say that "at least" she included it on the setlist. Same might happen with WYWH. So predictable!  |
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Post by erikvaze on May 24, 2024 13:23:12 GMT
Apparentely she deleted this and many other honest comments on her post... Although comments are obviously public, I covered one username and posted here her thoughts. ...But I said before, here's what will happen on few days: 1 - Avril will make a post or an Instagram story asking for fans which songs they wanna hear 2 - Everyone will beg for "Nobody's Home" 3 - She'll perform it bored as fuck with almost no rehearsal 4 - Fans will say that "at least" she included it on the setlist. Same might happen with WYWH. So predictable! Ahahah what comments also she deleted? Not mine yetπ«£π we have the screens so!!! We wonβt be silent Avril! |
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Post by tr252 on May 24, 2024 13:43:44 GMT
I can't believe she's kept that boring Head Above Water intro video. Such a mood killer.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 24, 2024 14:20:14 GMT
Guys, I know we are all frustrated with the current situation but Iβm seeing comments saying βI hate herβ and calling her a bitch, which is completely against our forum rules. We can express our discontent without resorting to personal insults or derogatory names.
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Post by katy on May 24, 2024 14:23:21 GMT
I can't believe she's kept that boring Head Above Water intro video. Such a mood killer. Ergh did she? Yawn lol |
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Post by blackmage on May 24, 2024 15:27:15 GMT
Guys, I know we are all frustrated with the current situation but Iβm seeing comments saying βI hate herβ and calling her a bitch, which is completely against our forum rules. We can express our discontent without resorting to personal insults or derogatory names. Indeed. I've been noticing some harsh comments since yesterday. When I mentioned her Lyme disease, it was because I felt some people were discrediting or disrespecting her possible health problems that we might not be fully aware of. Some people thought it was a defense, but I'm frustrated too. Last year, I traveled 1,724.3 miles to finally see her for the first time, and the experience could've been way better. Seeing that she's keeping the same problems make things even more frustrating. But comments about her on the forum things have gotten even worse. We can disagree with her attitudes, but this is still a fan forum. Even if she doesn't read the comments, it can affect people to see bad and derogatory remarks about her. |
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Post by ShiningStar_x on May 24, 2024 15:46:05 GMT
boo hoo demanding comments on instagram shes only performing 25 greatest hits songs when it's called the greatest hits tour. Be grateful she's performing at all and people have the chance to see her I wouldn't care if she only sung only Complicated 25 times, I'd still be grateful I've seen her.
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Post by eismann on May 24, 2024 15:52:32 GMT
I dont think she cares about the comments tho. She didnt care the last 10 years - the complaints are still the same and she barely changed anything. Plus she has said again and again that she does whatever tf she wants to. It's her whole brand and her persona. She doesnt care. Which is also the reason why she is able to be in this industrie for so long (without any big mental breakdown, scandal etc.). So it's good and bad.
I wish she would work with people who are as rich as her lol. I feel like a lot of people are not in the position to give her feedback cause they are financially dependent on her. I mean Avril said that Chad really challenged her vocals for HAW (album) and pushed her to do better - probably cause her career isn't his main income and he has a career on his own.
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Post by avocadil on May 24, 2024 16:05:30 GMT
Late to the party but I just took the time to listen to her whole Vancouver show on YouTube during my workout. Because I was working out I haven't been able to watch and only listened so here's my audio only impression: I don't think it was as bad as many people mentioned. Sure, she had her failures and problems especially during the verses of HTNGU and I just leave the weird pronunciation during SB uncommented (was that even English or did she invent a new language lol). Quality wise it was overall similar to the Love Sux Tour shows from last year. I saw her in Cologne and it was quite the same as the show in Vancouver and I really don't think it was outstandingly bad. Maybe I'm biased though because I feel like I heard her at her worst in Stuttgart, where she'd lost her voice and couldn't hold a single note. Anyway, the critical voices are understandable in my opinion and she still has A LOT of room to improve. I'm looking forward to how the next shows are going and how fans are responding.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on May 24, 2024 16:08:00 GMT
First concerts normally have problems and can be used as "testers," and maybe that's why she decided to start the last two tours in Canada where she feels more comfortable and it's less likely to have backlash or bad press coverage. So, I understand the soundcheck problem as somehow expected or also the fact that she a bit more stiff on stage than usual. I think these things will change a little, especially the production part, but I DON'T think she will make major changes in the setlist or on her own performance style. Nothing significent is gonna happen. Believe me. Fans complained a lot for Ferlazzo (band member and tour director) about the loud backing studio vocals tracks at the begging of Bite Me Tour. He adjusted it only for 4-5 concerts. Next leg of this tour and the whole Love Sux Tour, the loud backing studio vocals were there again, even louder than Avril's voice. Fans also requested other songs for Love Sux Tour wishing it as fixed tracks. What she did? Played twice it or theree times only, barely rehearsaled. To me, it's obvious that she has an idea of what real fans want but she's definetely not determinate to pushes herself or to evolve in any aspect - songwriter, performer and even as a singer. I don't know why she keeps touring except for the money in her bank account. She clearly doesnt seem passionate while singing on tour (even recent tracks). I remember when I complained about it two months ago on this forum and most of you defended her. Now you see how she's absolute not passionate about performing anymore... and it's nothing new. We've been in this awkward situation for YEARS! |
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Post by oneofthoseguys on May 24, 2024 16:20:40 GMT
boo hoo demanding comments on instagram shes only performing 25 greatest hits songs when it's called the greatest hits tour. Be grateful she's performing at all and people have the chance to see her I wouldn't care if she only sung only Complicated 25 times, I'd still be grateful I've seen her. greateful for what? Fans are complaning about the short setlist of HITS on GREATEST HITS tour. The tickets arent for free and people expect for the bare minimum - sing with passion and put on a great show. |
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 24, 2024 16:44:31 GMT
I'm not a fan of the first 2 outfits she has but I really like the last one she wears for the encore, it looks like a baggy black button down shirt and black leather bell bottom pants. It's very "her" but also mature looking and stylish without trying to be too much or too over the top. I wonder if we will see other variants of these costumes, I can't imagine she'd only have 3 outfits to wear for every show. I could see her maybe switching out the skirt bottom or having other variations of the UMS outfit, like maybe they also made versions of TBDT and GL with their respective colors and album logos.
I remember for the HAW tour there wasn't too much variation in the outfits but she would switch out the T-shirt/tank top she was wearing and the fluffy things on her arms had different color variants. The LS tour had many different skirts.
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Post by landonm170 on May 24, 2024 17:06:41 GMT
I can understand the comments surrounding people not being able to attend a show because she's not coming to their country/town, but as someone who has waited 7 years to see Avril (I just turned 18) and hasn't been to my region of the United States since 2008, I will be critical of her since I'm seeing her in September. It has been a dream to go to an Avril show, so I will be going, but that doesn't mean I will enjoy the show to the fullest potential. Yeah, I'm so excited to hear my favorite song of all time, My Happy Ending, live along with Complicated, Bite Me, When You're Gone, Don't Tell Me, etc., but the setlist for the fans who have been around since 2002 is a joke. I get she's a singles artists, not an albums artists, but get a grip! It's disrespectful, in my opinion, to make me, a broke college student, pay almost $200 for a presale pit ticket (which I only was able to afford due to presale) to give a lazy, half-assed performance of the same 14 songs you have played for 10 years now. As everyone is saying, if you can't do all these high-intensity songs, adapt. She's almost 40 years old, so it's understandable she won't have the stamina she had at 18, so quit drinking and partying like you were doing at 18.
I'm just mainly pissed about the setlist. The songs are fine I guess, but the order of them is just horrible. Bring HAW and IWY to the middle of the set along with WYG and have that buffer of a slow selection. Save Complicated for the last song since it's a Greatest Hits Tour you want to end on, imho, your biggest hit. I just can't believe Nobody's Home is not there. It's on the Greatest Hits album unlike WYWH, and she knows how much we love that song even performing it in Italy last year! It shouldn't be hard to do 18 songs. Hell, she could add KHO, WYWH, and Nobody's Home to make a ballad act, so all she would have to do is sit and sing in the middle of the show.
I love Avril so much. In 2017, when the conspiracy theory came around again, I thought who is this chick? I knew Complicated, I'm with You, My Happy Ending, Hot, and Hello Kitty, so I started diving into her singles, then her albums. I fell in love with her music especially Let Go and Under My Skin, the latter being an album that helps me through my depressive episodes. And just now I got an email about merch for the 20th anniversary... no vinyl pressing or digital reissue with Daydream and Take It, that sucks. Anyways, I say this out of love for her. As a Black Star, like all of you, I expect more from her, and unfortunately, I won't be getting it.
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