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Post by oneofthoseguys on May 25, 2024 16:04:08 GMT
I can totally see her perform NH tonight. Bullying works sometimes.  So do I, in the most NOT reheasarled way, and it wont last more than 3 shows. Its always the same tricks lol get ready for the posts asking for fans which songs they wanna hear, as if she didnt know anything. Lol |
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Post by lucasm on May 25, 2024 16:50:19 GMT
Thanks for saying that. Many of Avril's fans are toxic and live in the past. Avril is still fantastic for being free, for not being a drug addict, a gossipy artist and on the contrary: she is always telling us to be who we are and have a free spirit, young and not afraid of changing. This is fantastic. She will be 40, not 20. She has Lyme, a degenerative disease, not a simple flu. Le's be humans. Godbye Lullaby would easily be a current Taylor Swift album and would be very successful. I have the strong impression that Avril was also unhappy with the violent music industry that was that period. And the motherfucking princess brand has always been her brand, even though she has experimented with other styles (natural for any artist). The industry has always been very cruel to her, even at her peak LG-UMS-TBDT, which paved the styles of several bands and artists who, surprisingly, are IDENTICAL to their aesthetics and music today. Now that she is iconic, Avril have to take advantage of that. Again. Thanks for saying this. I'm looking forward to seeing this decent production live! Hmmm I dont think so. Her fans loved her show back then. I lived all of this. Most of the critiques werent from people who supported her. Things are way different now. Nowadays she can barely put a great show to her loyal fanbase. Fans are toxic to complain about the concerts that they payed for? "Motherfuckin princess" hahaha is that an excuse to dont evolve as an artist and to not improve her shows? Come on! Why is it so hard for you to admit that she's in a comfort zone FOR YEARS? She's lazy about the music for years and way more commited to visuals and to look good on Instagram. I know she could be more committed to fan requests, rehearse more with the band to expand setlist, write more mature lyrics and have more elaborate concepts, and I would REALLY like that too. Because I believe and love your music. I know she does the minimum a lot of the time... I already asked for #UMS20 with Daydream and B-sides on Twitter to her manager @nanotissera and tagged @evant. I've already asked for more songs at shows, specifically WYWH (my fav). The difference is that I'm not going to throw hate, just make requests. Here in Brazil, in 2022, we run the campaign to "play Avalanche" and bought it on iTunes Brazil. She noticed and was motivated to play live! Is this type of united fan initiative that's I want. But if she doesn't want to do it -- even with our requests -- what can I do? I'm just trying to remember that she's human too. We don't know what's going on. What keeps her motivated? Questions. |
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Post by shessolucky on May 25, 2024 17:20:11 GMT
Honestly, at this point I hope she doesnt change a thing. Its just crazy how rude people are.
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Post by lucasm on May 25, 2024 17:39:58 GMT
I haven't been a fan since 2002, so I can't say precisely, I was only 4 years old at that time.. But I thought the production quality of the first GH Tour show was really cool. I'm talking about: logos from musical eras, merchandise, changing clothes, lights, videos, colors, changing scenery.
I appreciate that there is an effort here.
Low points only for small setlist.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 25, 2024 17:40:30 GMT
I do agree if we hope for her to change anything I don’t think insulting her and being rude is a good motivator for anyone to do anything lol
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Post by shessolucky on May 25, 2024 17:40:31 GMT
She was gesturing something to the backstage during the WYG moment. I don't know what happened, maybe there were some sound issues? There definately were a few sound problems. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2024 17:44:53 GMT
I agree that her setlist is really disappointing. But it makes me sad how people interact with her posts online. She has a clear case of arrested development from fame at such a young age. It’s one of the tradeoffs with fame. I don’t think it’s just a persona. So it’s sad to me that fans are so harsh in how they communicate with her. No wonder she gets tired of them.
She’ll always be special to me and I like some of her new songs. But seeing her in 2022 made me realize there’s not much point anymore (personally). When I see her now I always think of that quote from the movie Almost Famous: “Now it’s just an industry of cool”. So I decided not to do the Greatest Hits tour and now I’m so relieved. I think this tour is definitely tailored to the general public more than us long term, big fans. (I’m brand new to this website but I’ve been a huge fan since 2002).
But man, she sounded great just a couple of days before the Greatest Hits tour kicked off! You just never know.
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Post by ShiningStar_x on May 25, 2024 17:48:23 GMT
Thanks for saying that. Many of Avril's fans are toxic and live in the past. Avril is still fantastic for being free, for not being a drug addict, a gossipy artist and on the contrary: she is always telling us to be who we are and have a free spirit, young and not afraid of changing. This is fantastic. She will be 40, not 20. She has Lyme, a degenerative disease, not a simple flu. Le's be humans. Godbye Lullaby would easily be a current Taylor Swift album and would be very successful. I have the strong impression that Avril was also unhappy with the violent music industry that was that period. And the motherfucking princess brand has always been her brand, even though she has experimented with other styles (natural for any artist). The industry has always been very cruel to her, even at her peak LG-UMS-TBDT, which paved the styles of several bands and artists who, surprisingly, are IDENTICAL to their aesthetics and music today. Now that she is iconic, Avril have to take advantage of that. Again. Thanks for saying this. I'm looking forward to seeing this decent production live! Hmmm I dont think so. Her fans loved her show back then. I lived all of this. Most of the critiques werent from people who supported her. Things are way different now. Nowadays she can barely put a great show to her loyal fanbase. Fans are toxic to complain about the concerts that they payed for? "Motherfuckin princess" hahaha is that an excuse to dont evolve as an artist and to not improve her shows? Come on! Why is it so hard for you to admit that she's in a comfort zone FOR YEARS? She's lazy about the music for years and way more commited to visuals and to look good on Instagram. If nowadays she couldn't put out a great show and was a poor performer who struggle then she wouldn't be selling out arenas. You alone are not the loyal fan base. There are millions of other people who are happy to go see her great show. |
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Post by afonso16 on May 25, 2024 17:53:33 GMT
Hmmm I dont think so. Her fans loved her show back then. I lived all of this. Most of the critiques werent from people who supported her. Things are way different now. Nowadays she can barely put a great show to her loyal fanbase. Fans are toxic to complain about the concerts that they payed for? "Motherfuckin princess" hahaha is that an excuse to dont evolve as an artist and to not improve her shows? Come on! Why is it so hard for you to admit that she's in a comfort zone FOR YEARS? She's lazy about the music for years and way more commited to visuals and to look good on Instagram. If nowadays she couldn't put out a great show and was a poor performer who struggle then she wouldn't be selling out arenas. You alone are not the loyal fan base. There are millions of other people who are happy to go see her great show. You're really telling me the "loyal fanbase" are the casuals that buy tickets for the sake of nostalgia and not the fans that actually listen to every single new release and are invested enough to have discussed her career online for years? |
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Post by Kaiye on May 25, 2024 18:23:34 GMT
I went to one of her shows last year, as a memory of being a fan for 20 years.
It’ll probably be the first and the last time.
How she acts on stage is honestly disrespectful.
I’ve seen a lot of artists in that same year, she is the laziest by a mile.
It pains me to say this- I hope her shows have negative response from the concertgoers and the media and sell less, it’s time she learn to be responsible for what she does.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on May 25, 2024 18:26:48 GMT
Of course he wouldn't miss this opportunity 😂
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2024 18:38:45 GMT
Unfortunately, what the guy said in the video above is true, I think.
When I saw her in 2022 she wasn’t on much longer than the openers either. I figured it was because ModSun was her partner and she was promoting him. I wasn’t thrilled about it because it felt a bit deceptive. But I happen to love his music so it was okay with me.
But she did the same thing this time, even after implying it would be different in interviews.
As others have said, being nasty to her on her socials is not the way to go. Because it’s clearly a money-making venture, express your feelings through your purchases (or lack thereof). The rest falls on deaf ears or is so rude that it likely encourages her to further disconnect from her fans and shows.
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Post by melissavandella on May 25, 2024 19:02:24 GMT
Of course he wouldn't miss this opportunity 😂 Not this leech... But it is her own fault. |
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Post by blackmage on May 25, 2024 19:19:26 GMT
I think things are getting kind of toxic, yes. Some comments are so out of line...
She has been doing fan services for more than a decade. I'm 100% sure this new UMS merch and lyrics are because fans requested it.
And I don't think she will make money from lyric videos on YouTube in 2024, lol. She won't get more rich from the 50 cents she'll make from lyric videos that only some fans (and not all of them) will watch. She probably spent more money hiring a designer to create them than she'll make in profit. These lyrics are 100% a bone thrown to the fans.
Also, I read on Reddit that she got to meet some fans after the show. Have you heard about that? Maybe she heard some complaints. As I said, I don't think her international Instagram followers who weren't even there lashing out on the internet will have much of an effect, but fans expressing their concerns to her face will be a better option.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on May 25, 2024 19:36:52 GMT
I think things are getting kind of toxic, yes. Some comments are so out of line... She has been doing fan services for more than a decade. I'm 100% sure this new UMS merch and lyrics are because fans requested it. And I don't think she will make money from lyric videos on YouTube in 2024, lol. She won't get more rich from the 50 cents she'll make from lyric videos that only some fans (and not all of them) will watch. She probably spent more money hiring a designer to create them than she'll make in profit. These lyrics are 100% a bone thrown to the fans. Also, I read on Reddit that she got to meet some fans after the show. Have you heard about that? Maybe she heard some complaints. As I said, I don't think her international Instagram followers who weren't even there lashing out on the internet will have much of an effect, but fans expressing their concerns to her face will be a better option. I think those lyric videos are part of the GH campaign. They are on her vevo account, and only her sony music related things are uploaded there. Since there's nothing new maybe all the songs will have that differential to boost the youtube streams. |
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