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Post by biggerwow on May 11, 2024 15:43:38 GMT
At the end of the day they paid for their show. There's a lot of steps where you can decide not to end up paying for the tickets and they went along because they were excited to see her. No one gets to decide whether they go now or not. It's their money and time. And as is said by many people you're going to have fun at the end of the day whether you get the show you want or not. Well, most times you never know you could have a bad time. That fucking life though.
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Post by katy on May 11, 2024 15:44:24 GMT
agree with snapshot. We have had years and years of Avril and her team being completely blind to, or just not caring about, what the fans actually want. She never gives anything back to us - we don’t get proper communication, zero fan engagement on social media, no bone thrown to old fans on tour with requests/playing a fan favourite album track, told things are coming soon then long periods - sometimes literally years - of silence. When the rumours of a GH album started here a lot of us asked what the point was in this streaming era. The replies were that artists put new songs on there. Yet again Avril and her team are the outliers and give us the absolute bare minimum and expect fans to lap it up. Any fans on Discord or Twitter or elsewhere who don’t see that are kidding themselves. “Don’t be a fan then!!!” isn’t an answer when most people acknowledging these downfalls have been fans for 20+ years - you can still love her and her music but note when she’s taking fans for granted, and she has been doing that for MANY years whether Twitter and Discord like it or not lol
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Post by Jinkxx on May 11, 2024 16:05:46 GMT
I totally agree with Snapshot and Katy. But since I’m a collector I did buy the vinyl and cd. I’m curious if the vinyl is just as beautiful as the Let Go20 is! I do hope she made something special because if it is like the vinyl is from Love Sux it’s lame… that vinyl isn’t beautiful at all, no pictures in it and such.
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Post by ame · 雨 on May 11, 2024 16:15:58 GMT
If someone here or anywhere esle in the internet thinks that an artist like Avril releasing a GH album without ANY new song is ok? then sorry but this is not 1995. Not much to say bc you guys already pointed out many reasons why this fandom is always like this, and rightfully so. She or her team always seem to be completely unaware and disconnected with what WE want, the ones who pay and the ones that have been here for years and decades....
I love her for many reasons and basically raising me lol, but she had managed her career and engagement with fans very poorly. No, she doesn't need to be any influence and nobody is requesting for her to turn into an extrovert if she's just shy and awkward in public, that's fine.
But for God's sake, she doesn't even have to release a full 20th UMS version. She could just release Daydream or Priceless or any other unknown song from UMS digitally and we'll all be more than happy. BUT will she? probably not. The GH album without any new song is pretty much almost like an insult to the loyal fans when she KNOWS how we stress her all the time with "new music" so it's just really disappointing if you ask me.
I could forgive her not including any new songs for whatever legal reason but if that's the case (which i doubt) then say it.
Anyways, i will still buy the stupid physical CD just to collect it BUT that doesn't mean I'm happy with what we're getting (less than bare minimum as usual).
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Post by Razorqo21 on May 11, 2024 16:38:05 GMT
If someone here or anywhere esle in the internet thinks that an artist like Avril releasing a GH album without ANY new song is ok? then sorry but this is not 1995. Not much to say bc you guys already pointed out many reasons why this fandom is always like this, and rightfully so. She or her team always seem to be completely unaware and disconnected with what WE want, the ones who pay and the ones that have been here for years and decades.... I love her for many reasons and basically raising me lol, but she had managed her career and engagement with fans very poorly. No, she doesn't need to be any influence and nobody is requesting for her to turn into an extrovert if she's just shy and awkward in public, that's fine. But for God's sake, she doesn't even have to release a full 20th UMS version. She could just release Daydream or Priceless or any other unknown song from UMS digitally and we'll all be more than happy. BUT will she? probably not. The GH album without any new song is pretty much almost like an insult to the loyal fans when she KNOWS how we stress her all the time with "new music" so it's just really disappointing if you ask me. I could forgive her not including any new songs for whatever legal reason but if that's the case (which i doubt) then say it. Anyways, i will still buy the stupid physical CD just to collect it BUT that doesn't mean I'm happy with what we're getting (less than bare minimum as usual). This
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Post by giveuwhatulike on May 11, 2024 18:05:06 GMT
Yeah I can't find anything really positive to say about the GH. For me, it's literally her this is...Avril Lavigne playlist on spotify, but this time on physical form. I hope at least we get a really good booklet. As I see on her e-mail there's also a letter to fans in there (but we always get those) so the only new thing is the booklet after all (I still can't believe it she's releasing a GH without a single ugh)
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Post by blackmage on May 11, 2024 18:43:29 GMT
To me, it's pretty clear that Avril and her team aren't fully aware that she's now a fanbase-driven artist. They consistently target a broader audience instead. In my view, this GH is aimed at the general-public and for new people to get to know her catalog. Idk, it sounds like some kind of damage control after bad decisions and poor career management. Sorry to admit that this is NOT for us, her fans at the same time, I totally agree that a new song would've changed everything... fans could've engaged more with it. Also, I strongly believe that most of these songs are going to be remastered. Maybe better communication would've led to a different sentiment. Had she stated: these songs are going to be remastered/remixed, fans could've complained less. I mention this because she didn't advertise the rearrangement of songs on Let Go 20th Anniversary and we all know that she did it.
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Post by snapshot on May 11, 2024 18:48:27 GMT
If the songs on the GH album are remastered or remixed in any way then I’ll gladly eat my words (to some extent) and will be pleasantly surprised. I just don’t see it happening.. I honestly just think itll be a playlist of already available songs; nothing new!
I do wonder if theyll use the remastered versions of the let go songs though.. or keep the originals. I think LG, SB and IWY all sound better remastered but I prefer the original Complicated!
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Post by blackmage on May 11, 2024 18:55:14 GMT
I agree with both perspectives. A significant portion of Avril's fanbase indeed exhibits toxic behavior towards her and her career. Anything not reminiscent of her 'good days' is often criticized. Somtimes, it seems like some fans are LG and UMS fans and not hers. I recall when she released LS Deluxe, there was considerable backlash: complaints about song lengths, that there are some many acoustic tracks, and etc. But well, we all know that Avril owes her career to fans who genuinely appreciate her and her music, so she should pay closer attention to their expectations and provide a better communication with them.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on May 11, 2024 19:07:17 GMT
I agree with both perspectives. A significant portion of Avril's fanbase indeed exhibits toxic behavior towards her and her career. Anything not reminiscent of her 'good days' is often criticized. Somtimes, it seems like some fans are LG and UMS fans and not hers. I recall when she released LS Deluxe, there was considerable backlash: complaints about song lengths, that there are some many acoustic tracks, and etc. But well, we all know that Avril owes her career to fans who genuinely appreciate her and her music, so she should pay closer attention to their expectations and provide a better communication with them. There is something about her that I cant understand. She loves being in studio and she only releases albums filled with tracks that she absolutely adores, apparentely. I dont get why she avoids theses songs so much during their own era (not talking about world tours only). She doesnt seem determinate to promote new songs and an entire new album, only the aesthetic and the visuals, never the songs and the musical part of a new album (i'm not talking about new singles). It would be less fustrating if she starts releasing EPs instead of 12-tracks-album
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2024 19:09:50 GMT
I agree with both perspectives. A significant portion of Avril's fanbase indeed exhibits toxic behavior towards her and her career. Anything not reminiscent of her 'good days' is often criticized. Somtimes, it seems like some fans are LG and UMS fans and not hers. I recall when she released LS Deluxe, there was considerable backlash: complaints about song lengths, that there are some many acoustic tracks, and etc. But well, we all know that Avril owes her career to fans who genuinely appreciate her and her music, so she should pay closer attention to their expectations and provide a better communication with them. I agree with this 100% and guess what? I fucking love her acoustic versions. Bite me, Bois Lie, What The Hell, Smile acoustic all rock.
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Post by erikvaze on May 11, 2024 20:05:48 GMT
Is there any way to tag Avril's Manager and have him understand this? Edit: Look, is Daydream i texted on 2 work mails of nano but i guess my message was in spam or he didn't ever read( it's all useless and impossible to contact anyone of her team, i wrote them via insta and etc. etc it's all so hard(
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Post by giveuwhatulike on May 11, 2024 20:31:37 GMT
She was in contact with the guy who'd mixed a few of her albums (his brother did the others) so maaaaaaaybe there will be remastered versions. Like, there's no new album so it must be about the GH.
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Post by sam on May 11, 2024 20:37:55 GMT
I ordered the GH album and GL. I’m not overly fussed about the exclusive Amazon colours (they weren’t marketed very well to me, only saw the email from her official site where I ordered from) But I do think some of the track list is weird. Bois lie and love it when you hate me? Hardly a hit.
Either way I just want them to collect. I already have LG so im happy to have two more.
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Post by blackmage on May 11, 2024 20:48:23 GMT
She was in contact with the guy who'd mixed a few of her albums (his brother did the others) so maaaaaaaybe there will be remastered versions. Like, there's no new album so it must be about the GH. Yes, I do remember people talking about her reconnecting with someone who remixed some of her previous records. She never explicitly addressed the fact that she remastered LG, but she did, so... I think there's a huge chance. Well, but I also want to know if this GH is going to have a 'single' or a 'promo'? Like, how is it going to be promoted on streaming services, for New Music Friday playlists, for example? Let Go 20th had Breakaway, and LS Deluxe had Mercury In Retrograde if I'm not wrong.
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