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Post by Dillon on Jul 21, 2023 12:09:42 GMT
I’m really curious if she’ll slowly remove a song here and there from the set list in order to eventually do those songs as a surprise song. So she do songs like Shake It Off, 22, and Fearless acoustic.
There are some songs on the set list that I could see her not want to do that for though. I don’t think she’d want to take away the experience of Cruel Summer just to sing it acoustic. And most of the Midnights set I think she’d want to keep like Anti-Hero, Lavender Haze and Karma.
She said she was “tricksy”. I’d love to see her play a different Red song instead All Too Well 10 for one night and let the crowd lose their minds that they didn’t get it and then start playing it during the acoustic set as a “gotcha” moment.
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Post by Dillon on Jul 20, 2023 12:31:54 GMT
I had to move the week after I went to the Eras Tour so I totally forgot to post!
I went to Pittsburgh Night 2. I was lucky enough to get Floor seats where the diamond part of the stage was. I got them from that second drop of tickets they released after the original presale.
With how high the stage was and not having tall people in front of me, I had a great view. Taylor got so close on the diamond!
The crowds were absolutely insane! Way crazier than they were when I went to see the Rep tour back in 2018 at the same stadium. When I was leaving the food line to go get in the merch line, everyone was in a dead stop at one point because no one knew how to proceed forward because how many people were packed in there. I got my food pretty quickly, but I stood in the merch line for 1.5 hours! I figured it would take a long time which is why I got food first so o could eat while waiting in the merch line. I missed both the opening acts in order to stand in the merch line, but I made it to my seat in plenty of time before Taylor started.
The surprise songs were The Story Of Us on guitar (which is one of my favorite Speak Now songs) and Seven which she brought out Aaron Dessner for to play the piano!
Since my friend and I had tickets to night 2, went drove into the city on Night 1 to make sure we didn’t have to travel the day of the show. And since we were already there on Night 1, we tried to get last minute resale tickets, but the prices never dropped to reasonable price, so we just camped out in the parking lot in my car. We were on the top level of a parking garage next to the stadium. We were able to hear the concert so clearly. So we kind of got two nights of Surprise songs. Night 1 she played Mr Perfectly Fine and The Last Time which were the two songs I had told my friend that I wanted to hear! It was so crazy to hear both of the songs I wanted live. The only shame was it was the night that I wasn’t inside the stadium for.
It was a great show! Easily the best concert I’ve been to and the most fun I’ve had at a concert. Other than the insane crowds, there wasn’t a dull moment!
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Post by Dillon on May 27, 2023 4:51:04 GMT
I agree that this Karma remix just doesn’t work. It sounds forced. Ice Spice gives no emotion in the vocal performance. She’s barely even rapping. It’s more like she’s trying to talk her way through the song. Even in the music video she shows almost no emotion and just looks like she doesn’t want to be involved.
I’m not biggest fan of rapping being put into pop songs; but when they’re done right they can turn out really good. Karma just isn’t one of those times. And it’s shame. Having known nothing prior about Ice Spice, I had high hopes that this rap remix was gonna be Bad Blood feat Kendrick 2.0. But it falls so short.
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Post by Dillon on May 24, 2023 22:34:05 GMT
Also is anyone else highly suspicious about this “vault track”? Like no way is it a vault track from midnights lol. I’d put good money on it being a song she’s either written in the last few months, or a song she wrote years and years ago and is passing it off as a song cut from Midnights because she knows it fits in with all the breakup interest I think it’s pretty plausible that she did write the song around the same time she wrote the other Midnights songs, but since she was still in her relationship with Joe at the time, the premise of the song was too vulnerable and fresh for her to want to release back then. But now that their relationship is over (and she’s not constantly fearing that her relationship might be ending every day) she feels comfortable releasing the song because it’s now about the past and not the present.
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Post by Dillon on May 14, 2023 5:15:57 GMT
It all kind of makes sense…sort of. After 2016 when she disappeared from the media, I think she made the conscious decision to keep her romantic relationships private *indefinitely.
And if whatever is going on with her and Matty isn’t truly romantic or intended for a long term relationship romantically, then she wouldn’t necessarily feel the need to protect it or hide it with the same level of commitment or intensity that she did with her relationship with Joe. She’s been seen out with other friends recently, so if she perceives her relationship with Matty as platonic (whether that includes benefits that we would never see), then she would probably feel fine about being seen with him just as she’s seen with her other friends. And I feel like this is most probable. I don’t get the impression she and Matty are fully involved. I believe he is just a friend, or at most, a rebound.
And yes, we know that she basically hates the media constantly speculating about her dating/romantic life which is why she kept her relationship with Joe so locked down. So why would she be so nonchalant about being seen with Matty knowing that these rumors are starting to fly and soar? Well, if it’s true that her split with Joe was amicable and she still cares for Joe, then I could understand if she’s letting these Matty rumors grab all the attention away from the breakup news to avoid Joe and their 6-year relationship continuing to get tarnished and picked apart. Essentially saying “Hi, focus on me and what I’m doing right now and don’t come after Joe because we left things on mostly good terms and I wish him the best.”
With such a breakup, she can’t avoid being out of the media altogether this time around, so maybe from a PR perspective, she’s allowing this Matty stuff to be the center of attention because it seems to be the least harmful narrative?
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Post by Dillon on May 11, 2023 0:08:02 GMT
I'm going to her eras tour July 7th...... think she will play more speak now songs?? not sure how many she is playing now but I have only heard 1 or 2.... hoping we get mean!!!! Yeah only Enchanted is part of the main setlist for now, but she has been playing other songs as the surprise songs. Sadly I believe she did Mean already so I don’t think she’ll repeat it. She’s also already done Mine, Sparks Fly, and Speak Now. Many are theorizing she’ll save Long Live for the last show but who knows, maybe she’ll play it on July 7th, or maybe she’ll do Ours (“this album is becoming ours again,” and it’s like a tribute to the fans too) or Last Kiss since it’s so close to July 9th. She’s already done Ours. I actually think it was the first Speak Now song performed in the surprise/acoustic set.
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Post by Dillon on Apr 9, 2023 18:48:46 GMT
The c’est la vie snippet is one of the clearest/highest-quality leaks that’s come out of the LS sessions.
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Post by Dillon on Apr 3, 2023 21:03:28 GMT
I think this theory is very plausible for it to at least spell out something. Will it spell out something to do to with Speak Now TV, that’s what I’m not sure of.
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Post by Dillon on Apr 1, 2023 22:00:24 GMT
They used a similar sounding guitar for the Anti-Hero acoustic and I didn’t care for it much. But I think it works a lot better for this song.
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Post by Dillon on Mar 18, 2023 17:47:26 GMT
I’m seeing people talk about the set list online. Everyone I’ve seen mention Tim McGraw considered it to be the debut time slot like Enchanted was for Speak Now. So even though it was a stripped/piano version of Tim McGraw, because she played it directly after the acoustic/surprise song, it’s possible I just assumed the acoustic set was comprised of two songs instead of one.
Tonight’s show will definitely give us more answers of how the set list could possibly evolve.
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Post by Dillon on Mar 18, 2023 16:00:14 GMT
The set list is absolutely insane! I have tickets to one of the Pittsburgh shows in June and cannot wait!
I believe the set list will change slightly each night. Not necessarily the set of each era will change every night, but that a few songs sprinkled throughout will change, because 44 songs is a lot.
We already know that the acoustic set will change every night because she wants each song in this set to be played once over the course of the tour, and she performed two songs as part of it: one on guitar and one on piano. And I noticed from a clip of her performing, she stated that she didn’t want repeated songs within the form of the acoustic set. So that makes me think that it’s possible that any song she performs as part of the acoustic set could make its way onto the main set list at some point on the tour. Which I would hope so, because how could she only perform her first song ever at one show?!
And I don’t think Speak Now will keep only one slot for a song for the entire tour. 1 song severely under-represented the eta compared to the others. Fearless had 3 songs and every other era had at least 4 songs. Except Debut, which didn’t even have its own era slot. It only got a song because of the acoustic set. So I think she will tweak the set throughout the tour and allow Speak Now and Debut to have more time to shine on stage. Otherwise, Debut won’t get any stage time unless it’s during the acoustic set. And even then, Debut doesn’t have enough songs to be played at all 51 shows.
I agree Bogo, I was surprised there were no vault songs. I expected Mr Perfectly Fine and Message In A Bottle. I think those are the two songs best fit for a stadium show for each album. But I’m also biased, because those are the two vault songs I want the most haha.
As for ATW 10, I’m not surprised she performed it. And with just over 3 hours of Taylor on stage, there’s no reason to not play that version over the 5 minute. That long of a set left plenty of time for so many other songs.
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Post by Dillon on Mar 18, 2023 15:46:03 GMT
I think All of the Girls leaked because the official release was coming, not that she released it because it leaked. I think she just wanted to save some tracks to celebrate the Eras Tour. I do think it's a bit odd to retroactively put If This Was a Movie on Fearless, but I think the idea is so that Speak Now will be entirely self-written. While I get the 2 Hunger Games songs timeline-wise make more sense on Speak Now, I don't mind that they're on Red. We sort of don't really know how Taylor classifies her songs, lots of the songs on the Fearless vault for example were apparently written around the time of debut. So maybe to her it's based on when she wrote them, if it was like between albums or when she started thinking about the next album. I guess going with the idea that her goal is to keep Speak Now TV entirely self-written, that even if Taylor herself considers the Hunger Games songs as part of the Speak Now era, that the same rule would apply…i.e. those songs weren’t solo-written so therefore they need lumped with another album instead like she did for If This Was A Movie.
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Post by Dillon on Mar 17, 2023 17:23:29 GMT
Interesting to see these select 3 songs get Taylor’s Versions at the same time plus alongside a Lover vault song. Nevertheless, my excitement is always through the roof when we get new Taylor content, especially music.
But I find it very interesting that All Of The Girls You Loved Before got grouped with the other songs because it’s the only song from an album that Taylor owns. I would have bet that if we were going to get any previously unreleased Lover songs, that she would have released a small EP of them. Which I guess could still happen down the line, but it would still make this song an outlier. Plus, I am surprised that we got this song since it leaked a few weeks ago. And am I crazy, or is this version slightly different? Like, was the leaked version truly a demo? Because a couple of the phrases in the released version sound just ever so slightly different. But that leak was so low quality that it’s difficult to determine if they’re the same exact version or not.
There’s been a lot of speculation on why If This Was A Movie TV is being retroactively grouped into Fearless TV. I’m kind of leaning toward the argument that it’s the only song from the original Speak Now (specifically the deluxe edition) that had a co-writer, so therefore she’s keeping it off of Speak Now TV in order to make the entire album solo-written (which would only be true if all included vault songs will also be solo-written). And I understand the thought process on this, but in my opinion, it would have made more sense to simply release the song as a standalone track rather than lump it with Fearless. Because even if this was a Fearless reject song that later got released on Speak Now Deluxe, why wouldn’t she have just included it on Fearless TV in the first place?
The Hunger Games songs are also being retroactively grouped with an album…Red TV. Which also doesn’t make sense. Why not just release them as standalone tracks? And I will die on this hill…the Hunger Games songs are Speak Now era anyway. They were released the same month Ours was released as the final Speak Now single and Taylor continued to tour Speak Now for a few months following the release. And Red wasn’t released for almost a year after the Hunger Games songs were. So to me, they will always be Speak Now era, if they had to be assigned to one.
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Post by Dillon on Mar 2, 2023 23:40:19 GMT
TIWYCF is cool to hear with Taylor’s vocals (or at least only Taylor’s vocals. You can definitely tell it’s just a demo by her vocals, and obviously by the unfinished instrumental.
All Of The Girls and Need are both good. I like Need more out of the two.
Drama Queen is rumored to be a Speak Now cut. Perhaps SN is the closest album to the song, but I honestly can’t place this song on any Taylor album. The song sounds more like a one-off song meant for a film or soundtrack. Maybe a fully produced version of the song might sound like it fits on Speak Now, but this demo sounds like a non-album track or like it was made very early on before a direction was chosen for SN.
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Post by Dillon on Mar 2, 2023 2:36:48 GMT
A demo for Forever Winter has also been leaked.
It’s unverified to be a demo from 2011-2012 when the song was written or a demo from the Red TV recording. Based on how it sounds, it sounds like a demo created while recording Red TV.
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