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Post by biggerwow on Oct 9, 2024 20:53:45 GMT
being young and rebellious, "the lead singer and face of the group gets married" i can see how some immature boys will see that as a threat to the band. I find it REALLY hard to believe they didn't like her as a person when she mostly has male friends. So i'm assuming it was more of a poser thing and acting "cool" or whatever they tried to do...jealousy maybe, could be and he implied his manager didn't help. His manager was abusing him at the time.
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Post by booknerd on Oct 10, 2024 4:02:42 GMT
So just some opinions now that I finished derycks book….
It’s really interesting Deryck’s version of things overall.
It really sounds like they were doomed from the start and that makes me feel awful for the things they had to endure individually and together. The fact that his band largely disliked her (he wrote that she’d often ask if they hated her and he didn’t have the heart to tell her they did, thanks to their manager who influenced them) and that they didn’t support their relationship is wild. Even at the point they got married, they didn’t care for her. He admitted it was the first time he fell in love. The fact that his own fans would talk shit about her to his face, and likewise her fans would shit all over him - which I recall in real time - is still so disgusting. His take of the break up somewhat surprises me given the content of GL- how he fought for her, demanded she put in equal the work to rekindle what they’ve clearly lost or just let each other go for both their sakes and that she quickly and easily (seemingly) decided they’d fizzled out and it wasn’t worth the effort. In other ways it only confirms what I’d assumed back then. That I recall from the time, which is spot on how he reported- her being away from home, partying, the cheating rumors (which he said she vehemently denied and he believed her). Between the way the media was back then, his band and both their fans opinions, it seems it literally destroyed them in ways we likely won’t truly ever understand.
With all that said, he never villainized her in any capacity. He told his truth while respecting her, noting how in love and devoted he was to her throughout their relationship, even when he said they were married but living separate lives. How he fell deeply in love right away but she was okay hiding it at first (how she thought it was fun) and he desperately wanted the world to know. They discussed children and they both felt like it was them against the world. That when they did the Alice promo, that was his closure from his relationship with her and he finally felt free to move really on. It was overall a really good and interesting read. I tried condensing it to what pertained specifically to Avril but there are more bits I didn’t touch upon
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Post by katy on Oct 10, 2024 7:14:28 GMT
It’s interesting he says her fans didn’t like the relationship either, I don’t really recall that being the case? Though I suppose back then the only Avril fan opinions I really saw were the ones on Bandaids.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 10, 2024 11:17:42 GMT
It’s good to see that despite what happened between them they still remained friends, even were able to work on GL together, and to this day she even just sang onstage with him. It’s good to see that despite what happened they clearly still have a lot of love and respect for each other.
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Post by eismann on Oct 10, 2024 12:34:29 GMT
Seems like his alcohol addiction wasnt a factor for their divorce, as a lot of fans speculated.
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Post by booknerd on Oct 10, 2024 13:28:27 GMT
Seems like his alcohol addiction wasnt a factor for their divorce, as a lot of fans speculated. By his side of things, it wasn’t. He didn’t get out of control until after they split. He was self medicating for pain, mental health issues and he felt he didn’t have a problem because he was functioning and proved he could quit cold turkey anytime he wanted. And he did, multiple times. I think once he felt like he was on solid ground again and the more he saw and heard about her out and about after their split and that she was doing okay, he was like why am I hiding inside miserable when I can go out and party too? So that’s basically what he did and it got completely out of control- he just didn’t realize it at the time.
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Post by booknerd on Oct 10, 2024 13:34:57 GMT
It’s interesting he says her fans didn’t like the relationship either, I don’t really recall that being the case? Though I suppose back then the only Avril fan opinions I really saw were the ones on Bandaids. Quote from his book- “On top of that, while we loved being together, it seemed our fans didn’t feel the same way. I got a lot of flack for dating a pop star. Sometimes at our shows, people would bring signs that read, “Avril Sucks!” When I signed autographs after the show people would flat-out say, “Why are you with her? Her music is shit.” Similarly, her fans thought I was ugly and not good enough for her. All of this made us retreat into our own relationship. Us against the world, fuck ’em all.” Edited to add a second relevant but scary quote: “ Early in 2007, Avril and I were still in our newlywed bliss. We had just moved into a new house, the Bel Air mansion where Travis Barker and his then wife Shanna Moakler lived in Meet the Barkers. We were both wrapping up our records and feeling confident about the next chapter in our lives, but it wasn’t all sunshine and roses. Right before Sum 41 hit the road, our management had been notified by the FBI that I was receiving credible death threats for being with Avril. Normally, they ignore these things, but these letters were a bit more sophisticated, and had no fingerprints on them. They suggested that the band bring on professional security that dealt with this kind of stuff. We brought in a guy named Kenny Gabriel who had toured with Britney Spears and had dealt with a lot of crazy stalkers. Kenny became my right-hand man, taking care of me and the band, babysitting everyone, and saving me from more than a few attacks out on the road.”
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 10, 2024 17:08:19 GMT
Man it’s so sad the way people trashed both of them. You don’t have to necessarily like the person your fave celebrity is with but why on earth would you show up to their concert or be asking for an autograph and in the same breath be insulting their partner? That’s just so rude! Imagine if a stranger came up to you on the street and started insulting your partner, I’d throw hands 😤 It’s no wonder after a while Avril started keeping her private life more private, except for Chad and Mod who were more open to the idea of being so public.
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Post by booknerd on Oct 10, 2024 18:43:55 GMT
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Post by katy on Oct 10, 2024 20:15:04 GMT
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Post by falling on Oct 11, 2024 10:21:44 GMT
Such cute and cozy shots! Who knows what their life would have been like if they had stayed together.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Oct 11, 2024 22:26:15 GMT
Her 7th album would have been "Love Is Great"
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 12, 2024 11:13:06 GMT
Her 7th album would have been "Love Is Great" Love Rox
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Post by ame · 雨 on Oct 12, 2024 11:44:29 GMT
Her 7th album would have been "Love Is Great" Love Rox that's even better xD 1. Flower Shower 2. Stroke Me 3. Bois Tell The Truth 4. I Love It When You Love Me 5. Love Rox 6. Kiss Me Like The World Is Ending 7. Snowflake 8. Something New 9. Love You 10. All I Want 11. Dare To Love You 12. Fix of A Heartache
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Post by MyHappySk8er on Oct 12, 2024 13:53:51 GMT
Imagine if a stranger came up to you on the street and started insulting your partner, I’d throw hands 😤 I hope you're kidding. On the other hand, people like to brush off toxic behavior with "just ignore them." It doesn't work. Most people cannot take that level of abuse and it usually escalates. I also want to add that we're only hearing Deryck's side and this could all be a straight up lie. Why would Deryck's band hate her?
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