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Post by sam on Feb 11, 2019 0:36:41 GMT
Omg just noticed someone changed the title! Tea was iconic. PeriodT Sorry, that was me  I changed it as this can serve as the new album thread  |
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Post by slapstick on Feb 11, 2019 0:39:47 GMT
Laws are different in each country. In Germany, it's extremely strict when it comes to copyrights. Spreading illegal download links (whether you're the one who uploaded the copyrighted material or not) is definitely not allowed. Heck, YouTube is already difficult enough. A certain legal site where you can read and download old books (1900 and older) whose copyright has expired has been completely shut down in Germany just because of a dozen apparently illegally uploaded books (it's being argued whether they've actually been uploaded illegally or not). But I'm drifting off. My point is that Bandaids' and ProBoard's rules strictly say that you may not post copyrighted material or links to such stuff or ask for any of this. I'm sure they have their reasons. If you can't accept this rule, then maybe Bandaids is not the place for you. True, but I do wonder a bit whether snippets (official or not), technically being mere promo material/fraction of a copyrighted work falls under a different legal umbrella, sort of how reviewers of movies have some kind of a fair use term under which they can take short film segments without breaking copyright rules.. |
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ame · 雨
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Post by ame · 雨 on Feb 11, 2019 0:44:04 GMT
Omg just noticed someone changed the title! Tea was iconic. PeriodT Sorry, that was me I changed it as this can serve as the new album thread I was hoping to get to 600 pages before the release date :c Will not be opened again or how does it work? :c |
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Post by nebreklaw on Feb 11, 2019 0:48:29 GMT
Omg just noticed someone changed the title! Tea was iconic. PeriodT Sorry, that was me I changed it as this can serve as the new album thread Fair enough but you really went and drunk my tea like I- |
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Post by lavigneteam on Feb 11, 2019 0:48:53 GMT
I hope some of those songs are on a deluxe edition of HAW
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Post by sam on Feb 11, 2019 0:50:20 GMT
Sorry, that was me I changed it as this can serve as the new album thread I was hoping to get to 600 pages before the release date :c Will not be opened again or how does it work? :c This’ll serve as the new one, I will sticky it tomorrow morning |
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Post by panop on Feb 11, 2019 0:55:24 GMT
AvrilBandaids:
Welcome to Avril Bandaids, the premier fansite for Avril Lavigne! Since 2003, we've been committed to providing a friendly(NOT) environment for Black Stars to catch up on the latest news from Avril, discuss her music and career, shoot the breeze, and take part in our regular site events and competitions! If you want to know what's hot, just scroll down to grab the latest news and most popular discussions!
So it's fanbase...!!!
Are they even aware that there are MANY fans that might wanna get into leaked stuff(and not for harming reasons)?? They are talking about respect...when they are actually respecting like 50% of the members! The very least they could do...was to create a spoiler(leaked stuff) thread..for those who are interested. And what did they do...They(or maybe just one person...I don't know for sure) actually decided to disrespect us all!! And here on a fanbase...we are only supposed to approach things by distance and rules that sometimes makes no sense!
Leaking music it's not right..I know...But since something got leaked(and of curse not from us. It's not like we hacked people and stole the songs/demos!)..are we not supposed to listen to it (like we used to in the past??)...or to share it among us! The fans...those who are not going to make a problem out of it...like not buy the actual official release of every bit of music...or stream it on the right platforms!
We are here to absorb every little bit of news..pictures, music and more...related to Avril!
If that's unthinkable...I suppose we should block every leaked Avril song globally and never mention them again ..just bury them...!! Songs like.."think about it", "won't let you go", (Songs that was shared in here)! As they should!
I saw some defensive commends about new stuff running this site..so new rules! So they took a specific product/service and change it??
This is not really a fandom ..feels more like a site that you can be contained...ruled! No free talk in here! (but when people are offending each other in here or talking sh*t... no actions then!)
I am not trying to offend those who run this site...but....I do believe 100% that they should manage things different!
p.s.1: I'm not in the list of people who requested publicly the leaked stuff {ever}(but I have in privet)..and could definitely live without them ..but I understand those more passionate about it...and their rights on a fandom! And I also understands those who don't want to get spoiled when it's an official product about to be officially released soon!
That's why there is thread option..so you can create more(spoiler and none) so you can cover your audience's needs/desires! (and today we were handling music that might never get a release date..and we are forced not "examinate it" as a fandom should)
p.s.2: closing a popular thread, especially at this time with everything that is happening(interviews new era..new music right on the corner)....only kills the hype (something rare in here lately..and something much needed)! And that...doesn't help Avril...doesn't please your members/visitors(whether they like spoilers or not)..so driving people out of here it doesn't help the site itself..! It does only harm!
(hope not to get blocked...it's possible)
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Post by Sonikko on Feb 11, 2019 0:55:39 GMT
I'm extremely excited for the new album, got it preordered back in December.
It sounds like the current material is the best she's released in a long while, I'm liking some of the new songs more than GL too.
Maybe it's just the hype talking, but I feel like this album could stand up next to the OG 3.
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Post by TamyXD on Feb 11, 2019 0:59:27 GMT
Laws are different in each country. In Germany, it's extremely strict when it comes to copyrights. Spreading illegal download links (whether you're the one who uploaded the copyrighted material or not) is definitely not allowed. Heck, YouTube is already difficult enough. A certain legal site where you can read and download old books (1900 and older) whose copyright has expired has been completely shut down in Germany just because of a dozen apparently illegally uploaded books (it's being argued whether they've actually been uploaded illegally or not). But I'm drifting off. My point is that Bandaids' and ProBoard's rules strictly say that you may not post copyrighted material or links to such stuff or ask for any of this. I'm sure they have their reasons. If you can't accept this rule, then maybe Bandaids is not the place for you. True, but I do wonder a bit whether snippets (official or not), technically being mere promo material/fraction of a copyrighted work falls under a different legal umbrella, sort of how reviewers of movies have some kind of a fair use term under which they can take short film segments without breaking copyright rules.. Idk, I find it kind of confusing. I've heard multiple times that it's okay to e.g. share 5 seconds of a song on YouTube, but then at the same time those videos often get blocked by YouTube. I think if you want to be on the safe side, you better always ask the owner for permission. |
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Post by rocket32 on Feb 11, 2019 1:05:24 GMT
Was it mainly newly created accounts that are just joining the forum because of all the new news and excitement and accounts that have been kind of inactive for a while that are returning that have been posting the links and snippets? If so it could be possible that some of them aren’t intentionally ignoring the staff. Unless the mods were posting a warning not too on nearly every single page people who don’t care to read past pages of the thread and catch up on the conversation could have been missing those warnings assuming they weren’t consistently already involved in the conversation.
It is your responsibility when you create an account on a website/forum to read and be aware of the rules but if I may make a suggestion, maybe consider a stickied thread at the top of this section of the forum with a title that makes it clear that posting links to leaked songs or snippets isn’t allowed? Something you could do temporarily until you guys think it’s no longer needed, and possibly more effective then warnings individually as posts in the thread.
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Post by lajra on Feb 11, 2019 1:05:40 GMT
True, but I do wonder a bit whether snippets (official or not), technically being mere promo material/fraction of a copyrighted work falls under a different legal umbrella, sort of how reviewers of movies have some kind of a fair use term under which they can take short film segments without breaking copyright rules.. Idk, I find it kind of confusing. I've heard multiple times that it's okay to e.g. share 5 seconds of a song on YouTube, but then at the same time those videos often get blocked by YouTube. I think if you want to be on the safe side, you better always ask the owner for permission. they were posted on a music hosting website, that's actually their problem, they are the ones, who should care about legality, not people who share the link all around, because they aren't the ones who uploaded it. Since when sharing a link is illegal lol. I really thought this forum was a nice fandom where fans can find cool things about their idol.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Feb 11, 2019 1:06:31 GMT
AvrilBandaids: Welcome to Avril Bandaids, the premier fansite for Avril Lavigne! Since 2003, we've been committed to providing a friendly(NOT) environment for Black Stars to catch up on the latest news from Avril, discuss her music and career, shoot the breeze, and take part in our regular site events and competitions! If you want to know what's hot, just scroll down to grab the latest news and most popular discussions! So it's fanbase...!!! Are they even aware that there are MANY fans that might wanna get into leaked stuff(and not for harming reasons)?? The are talking about respect...when they are actually respecting like 50% of the members! The very least they could do...was to create a spoiler(leaked stuff) thread..for those who are interested. And what did they do...They(or maybe just one person...I don't know for sure) actually decided to disrespect us all!! And here on a fanbase...we are only supposed to approach things by distance and rules that sometimes makes no sense! Leaking music it's not right..I know...But since something got leaked(and of curse not from us. It's not like we hacked people and stole the songs/demos!)..are we not supposed to listen to it (like we used to in the past??)...or to share it among us! The fans...those who are not going to make a problem out of it...like not buy the actual official release of every bit of music...or stream it on the right platforms! We are here to absorb every little bit of news..pictures, music and more...related to Avril! If that's unthinkable...I suppose we should block every leaked Avril song globally and never mention them again ..just bury them...!! Songs like.."think about it", "won't let you go", (Songs that was shared in here)! As they should! I saw some defensive commends about new stuff running this site..so new rules! So they took a specific product/service and change it?? This is not really a fandom ..feels more like a site that you can be contained...ruled! No free talk in here! (but when people are offending each other in here or talking sh*t... no actions then!) I am not trying to offend those who run this site...but....I do believe 100% that they should manage things different! p.s.1: I'm not in the list of people who requested publicly the leaked stuff {ever}(but I have in privet)..and could definitely live without them ..but I understand those more passionate about it...and their rights on a fandom! And I also understands those who don't want to get spoiled when it's an official product about to be officially released soon! That's why there is thread option..so you can create more(spoiler and none) so you can cover your audience's needs/desires! (and today we were handling music that might never get a release date..and we are forced not "examinate it" as a fandom should) p.s.2: closing a popular thread, especially at this time with everything that is happening(interviews new era..new music right on the corner)....only kills the hype (something rare in here lately..and something much needed)! And that...doesn't help Avril...doesn't please your members/visitors(whether the like spoilers or not)..so driving people out of here it doesn't help the site itself..! It does only harm! (hope not to get blocked...it's possible) Preach! <3 We're talking about songs that will probably be leaked sooner or later SO....just like won't let you go...I don't see the difference either. And we are fans, we're not "ruining" her career... And yeah, you're right, my hype is already dead tbh... It was supposed to be a happy time, we were getting unreleased songs as well, anyways. I've also been a "member" since 2009 (I lost my account, i dont even remember the username) and I remember you could find anything here, ANYTHING. |
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Post by lavigneteam on Feb 11, 2019 1:07:34 GMT
AvrilBandaids: Welcome to Avril Bandaids, the premier fansite for Avril Lavigne! Since 2003, we've been committed to providing a friendly(NOT) environment for Black Stars to catch up on the latest news from Avril, discuss her music and career, shoot the breeze, and take part in our regular site events and competitions! If you want to know what's hot, just scroll down to grab the latest news and most popular discussions! So it's fanbase...!!! Are they even aware that there are MANY fans that might wanna get into leaked stuff(and not for harming reasons)?? The are talking about respect...when they are actually respecting like 50% of the members! The very least they could do...was to create a spoiler(leaked stuff) thread..for those who are interested. And what did they do...They(or maybe just one person...I don't know for sure) actually decided to disrespect us all!! And here on a fanbase...we are only supposed to approach things by distance and rules that sometimes makes no sense! Leaking music it's not right..I know...But since something got leaked(and of curse not from us. It's not like we hacked people and stole the songs/demos!)..are we not supposed to listen to it (like we used to in the past??)...or to share it among us! The fans...those who are not going to make a problem out of it...like not buy the actual official release of every bit of music...or stream it on the right platforms! We are here to absorb every little bit of news..pictures, music and more...related to Avril! If that's unthinkable...I suppose we should block every leaked Avril song globally and never mention them again ..just bury them...!! Songs like.."think about it", "won't let you go", (Songs that was shared in here)! As they should! I saw some defensive commends about new stuff running this site..so new rules! So they took a specific product/service and change it?? This is not really a fandom ..feels more like a site that you can be contained...ruled! No free talk in here! (but when people are offending each other in here or talking sh*t... no actions then!) I am not trying to offend those who run this site...but....I do believe 100% that they should manage things different! p.s.1: I'm not in the list of people who requested publicly the leaked stuff {ever}(but I have in privet)..and could definitely live without them ..but I understand those more passionate about it...and their rights on a fandom! And I also understands those who don't want to get spoiled when it's an official product about to be officially released soon! That's why there is thread option..so you can create more(spoiler and none) so you can cover your audience's needs/desires! (and today we were handling music that might never get a release date..and we are forced not "examinate it" as a fandom should) p.s.2: closing a popular thread, especially at this time with everything that is happening(interviews new era..new music right on the corner)....only kills the hype (something rare in here lately..and something much needed)! And that...doesn't help Avril...doesn't please your members/visitors(whether the like spoilers or not)..so driving people out of here it doesn't help the site itself..! It does only harm! (hope not to get blocked...it's possible) Preach! <3 We're talking about songs that will probably be leaked sooner or later SO....just like won't let you go...I don't see the difference either. And we are fans, we're not "ruining" her career... And yeah, you're right, my hype is already dead tbh... It was supposed to be a happy time, we were getting unreleased songs as well, anyways. I've also been a "member" since 2009 (I lost my account, i dont even remember the username) and I remember you could find anything here, ANYTHING. so those songs aren't getting released? |
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Post by sam on Feb 11, 2019 1:10:35 GMT
Was it mainly newly created accounts that are just joining the forum because of all the new news and excitement and accounts that have been kind of inactive for a while that are returning that have been posting the links and snippets? If so it could be possible that some of them aren’t intentionally ignoring the staff. Unless the mods were posting a warning not too on nearly every single page people who don’t care to read past pages of the thread and catch up on the conversation could have been missing those warnings assuming they weren’t consistently already involved in the conversation. It is your responsibility when you create an account on a website/forum to read and be aware of the rules but if I may make a suggestion, maybe consider a stickied thread at the top of this section of the forum with a title that makes it clear that posting links to leaked songs or snippets isn’t allowed? Something you could do temporarily until you guys think it’s no longer needed, and possibly more effective then warnings individually as posts in the thread. Thanks for the suggestion, it may be an idea, yeah. To add to what you said though every single account receives a welcome PM with a link to the rules and the rules are set in the forums settings to be the first thread anyone ever sees. |
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Post by TamyXD on Feb 11, 2019 1:12:27 GMT
Idk, I find it kind of confusing. I've heard multiple times that it's okay to e.g. share 5 seconds of a song on YouTube, but then at the same time those videos often get blocked by YouTube. I think if you want to be on the safe side, you better always ask the owner for permission. they were posted on a music hosting website, that's actually their problem, they are the ones, who should care about legality, not people who share the link all around, because they aren't the ones who uploaded it. Since when sharing a link is illegal lol. I really thought this forum was a nice fandom where fans can find cool things about their idol.
I do not know the laws in other countries. Maybe it's not as strict in the US. But I swear, in Germany you are not allowed to share illegal links, no matter if you're the one who uploaded the stuff there or not, no matter if you found the link in a different forum or not. |
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I changed it as this can serve as the new album thread 
