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Post by slapstick on Dec 31, 2020 12:16:07 GMT
Head Above Water music video is 7th place? I know many of us have the song close to our heart, I still vividly remember the release of the lyric video before the MV and where I've been during each of them, and the thing will forever give me nostalgic flashbacks, but lets be frank here - it's a collage of obvious green-screen shots, okayish stunt-doubling, and nature panorama, it almost looks like those Eurovision introduction intermissions between contestants. It does have some very pretty and quality moments, including the part under water, but compared to IFILWTD (or He Wasn't, WYWH,DTM,etc.) it feels like a rather rushed low-budget affair from my "objective" perspective.
And regarding songs I want to add that I find it kind of sad that Don't Tell Me is slowly slipping downwards, it's one of the most serious and meaningfully-themed songs she made!
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Post by NowISee on Dec 31, 2020 12:29:55 GMT
Head Above Water music video is 7th place? I know many of us have the song close to our heart, I still vividly remember the release of the lyric video before the MV and where I've been during each of them, and the thing will forever give me nostalgic flashbacks, but lets be frank here - it's a collage of obvious green-screen shots, okayish stunt-doubling, and nature panorama, it almost looks like those Eurovision introduction intermissions between contestants. It does have some very pretty and quality moments, including the part under water, but compared to IFILWTD (or He Wasn't, WYWH,DTM,etc.) it feels like a rather rushed low-budget affair from my "objective" perspective. And regarding songs I want to add that I find it kind of sad that Don't Tell Me is slowly slipping downwards, it's one of the most serious and meaningfully-themed songs she made! It's funny how Avril says HAW is the best video she has shot. Like lol, really?!
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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 31, 2020 13:09:40 GMT
Smile above Girlfriend? Seriously?
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Post by Underclass King on Dec 31, 2020 16:21:03 GMT
I'm surprised to see "I Fell in Love with the Devil" so high, especially above classics like "Sk8er Boi". It's not a bad song, but I don't think it's even close to being right outside of the top 10 of her entire discography.
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Post by Duwod on Dec 31, 2020 20:10:08 GMT
I love Smile but yeah I think the Girlfriend mv is way better tbh. Hm.. I disagree on IFILWTD tho.
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Post by biggerwow on Dec 31, 2020 20:28:08 GMT
GF video at 6??? Probably her best video.
Complicated at 11. I'd be shocked if she ever manages to top that song. It was very well done. It's not even my favorite Speaking of favorites, I'm convinced IFILWTD is so hight is because it's a fan favorite. It's good for something she wrote on her own but it's still basic compared to other songs.
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Post by TamyXD on Dec 31, 2020 20:42:16 GMT
Ugh, I Will Be is still so overrated! It's so cheesy! I mean, I don't hate it, but even back when I was listening to Avril's music regularly, I'd barely listen to this song.
Honestly, I think a lot of the top 20 songs are good, and I myself gave many of them at least 8/10, but there are so many songs I easily prefer.
I guess, as every year, I am surprised to see this many singles ranked so high. Avril does have some great singles, but the real gems are mostly non-single tracks imo (e.g. Darlin, HYRM, Alone, Nobody's Fool, Take Me Away, Get Over It).
I have trouble understanding why HAW music video is rated so high. I think the idea and simplicity behind it is good, but the execution isn't. The green screen is a bit too obvious at times, the lip-sync is off sometimes, and the stunt double doesn't even have the same hair style as Avril's. (I don't mind them using a stunt double at all, but they really should've paid attention to her hair - it should've been wavy, like Avril's, not straight. This just really bothers me somehow.)
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Post by Uncle Bob on Jan 1, 2021 10:08:07 GMT
The final update has been posted. Happy New Year everyone.
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Post by melissavandella on Jan 1, 2021 10:39:19 GMT
#1 deserved, it can't get better than IWY. Birdie top 10. Rottem kinda won, huh. 👀👀👀
Whew, all the TBDT ballads PUNCHING, deserved I would say. 👯♂️
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Post by katy on Jan 1, 2021 10:58:42 GMT
HAW not dropping is interesting. I mean it’s a great song, I just thought it’d drop from #2 this year. Not sure on Birdie top 10 but hey ho.
Thanks for organising this again UB!
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Post by henryp92 on Jan 1, 2021 11:45:48 GMT
Oh, so happy to see most of my top 10 in the general top 20, even if I didn't vote lol.
GYWYL, Birdie, Nobody's Home, IFILWTD, I'm with you... so many great songs she has put out.
Happy new year!
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Post by TamyXD on Jan 1, 2021 13:34:55 GMT
The music video ranking isn't very surprising. But as I mentioned before, I think most of Avril's music videos, especially during the first three eras, are really good, 10/10. I personally still probably would've but He Wasn't at #1, I just love the energy in that video so much, but the average top 5 is definitely fine, too. I always disagree with the top 10 songs, haha. The only two songs I might've put this high in my personal ranking are Nobody's Home and Fall To Pieces. Birdie is really good / 10-point-worthy too imo, but it's just not as good as some other songs. Innocence and When You're Gone are really overrated imo; I just find them too cheesy. KHO is okay, but also kinda cheesy. IWY is nice and I get why fans love it so much, but it's just a bit too slow for my taste. I honestly think it drags on. MHE... it's a good song, but I've just heard it too many times. And HAW and IWIM are a little ruined by the production or mixing (or both?). That's my problem with most of Avril's songs since GL era - the production/mixing is either flat or kind of over the top / too clear-sounding, which actually gives me headaches after a while. I'd be really interested to know if there are any significant voting differences between long-time fans (e.g. since before GL/AL era) and those that became fans rather recently (during AL or HAW era). Sometimes, when looking at Twitter, I feel that the newer fans seem to appreciate HAW and AL more than we long-time fans tend to. Anyway, to finish this little essay, I want to thank Uncle Bob and the rest of the BA team and everyone else involved for making this rating possible once again. It's one of my favourite things about BA and has been since I first participated. As always, I'm already looking forward to the next one.
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Post by TamyXD on Jan 1, 2021 13:36:41 GMT
I just noticed... I think we completely forgot about "Burning (Bright)" and "That Kinda Guy", didn't we?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 1, 2021 13:57:13 GMT
Wow interesting that the top 4 songs are exactly the same as last year lol Well her ballads always rank well, so I guess that’s why a lot of them are in the top 10, though frankly I wouldn’t put IWIM there. I’m not personally a huge fan of WYG either but it’s one of her biggest hits, so it has its place. I’m surprised HAW is at #2, it deserves top 10 I think, but I didn’t think it would outrank some of her classics.
Top music videos are pretty much deserved, though as much as I like the video for Alice I think #8 is too high since throughout most of the video she’s just running around in a forest.
Thank you to all of our members and those outside the site for participating this year. Hopefully by the time we do the next one, Avril will have released some new music by then for us to add to the list!
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Post by Duwod on Jan 1, 2021 14:45:24 GMT
Thank you for everyone who participated! As much as I love IWIM I didn‘t expect it to be that high since people either love or dislike the song. HAW on the other hand is a bit more understandable since it is still kind of new and the song that we remember the best out of HAW the album. I‘m glad to see Innocence so high it is imo one of her best songs ever. Yes, I said that.
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