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Post by imwiththesk8erboi on Jan 15, 2021 10:06:14 GMT
What do you think of this remake of "Sk8er Boi" by Ashnikko called "L8r Boi" that came out today? I think it's quite clever.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Jan 15, 2021 10:19:41 GMT
What do you think of this remake of "Sk8er Boi" by Ashnikko called "L8r Boi" that came out today? I think it's quite clever 😀 I love it! Ashnikko confirmed a video for this song and she wants Avril in it too. That would se so cool and nostalgic
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Post by ame · 雨 on Jan 15, 2021 11:50:26 GMT
Regarding "L8r boi"....ahmm...ew (?) .__.
Like...ok, i get the whole independient woman theme which is ok i guess, but it's basically has nothing to do with the original song. and obviously it doesn't have to BUT it seems like it somehow she twisted it's messsage in a very unpleasant way....maybe that's because i am fan idk...but i didn't like it at all.
The instrumental is pretty cheap...or at least, not MY taste. idk.
The song is pretty gross as well...like seriously, hearing sk8r boi chorus with "Five years from now in a beautiful home. Somebody else is makin' her moan. Skater boy is alone, with his hand on his balls".....it just made SO uncomfortable....BUT idk...
i guess everyone has a taste and that's ok...but i personally hated it sorry ://
I really hope she doesn't appear in the music video for a song like that.., but that's just MY opinion...
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Post by imwiththesk8erboi on Jan 15, 2021 12:01:28 GMT
Regarding "L8r boi"....ahmm...ew (?) .__. Like...ok, i get the whole independient woman theme which is ok i guess, but it's basically has nothing to do with the original song. and obviously it doesn't have to BUT it seems like it somehow she twisted it's messsage in a very unpleasant way....maybe that's because i am fan idk...but i didn't like it at all. The instrumental is pretty cheap...or at least, not MY taste. idk. The song is pretty gross as well...like seriously, hearing sk8r boi chorus with "Five years from now in a beautiful home. Somebody else is makin' her moan. Skater boy is alone, with his hand on his balls".....it just made SO uncomfortable....BUT idk... i guess everyone has a taste and that's ok...but i personally hated it sorry :// I really hope she doesn't appear in the music video for a song like that.., but that's just MY opinion... I get you. I only like that she flipped the narrative and made it into something that stands for female empowerment, yes she could've done it differently because the whole cum, balls, sniffing the butt etc. thing is a bit too vulgar for my taste, but I guess it's supposed to get peoples attention.
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Post by tommygun on Jan 15, 2021 12:09:12 GMT
What do you think of this remake of "Sk8er Boi" by Ashnikko called "L8r Boi" that came out today? I think it's quite clever 😀 It kinda sounds like a cheap parody to me. I just don’t think the lyrics work at all, I think the sex references are unnecessary and there for some sort of shock value only. I'm not a prude but I just dont think it brings anything to the new story this artist is trying to tell. I don’t really see Avril being in the video to be honest, like what would she be doing?
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Post by ame · 雨 on Jan 15, 2021 12:13:04 GMT
I don't mind the female empowerment...obviously, we have a great track called Dumb Blonde but what bothers me it's where this all comes from: which is the idea that Sk8er boi is "problematic" like what the hell dude??
This is what she said and I couldn't disagree more with her. That's why i don't like it. The intention behind it it's not to honor a legendary song, it's to "fix it" which is pretty dumb considering there is nothing to fix...
"When I was younger, I thought Avril Lavigne was a bad bitch. I knew I wanted to flip an Avril song, and when we looked at the lyrics of ‘Sk8er Boi’, I was like, ‘Love Avril, love everything about her, but the lyrics are a bit problematic!’ Because it’s mainly about ‘Fuck this girl. She doesn’t appreciate my man. Fuck this girl for being into ballet.’ I wanted to update it a little bit and make it about not wanting skater boy. He’s not the prized object in this song, whereas in the original he is".
Seriously...i really hate this narrative that sk8er boi is problematic like...seriously, stop, get over it, it has become ridiculous already....
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Post by imwiththesk8erboi on Jan 15, 2021 12:24:48 GMT
I don't mind the female empowerment...obviously, we have a great track called Dumb Blonde but what bothers me it's where this all comes from: which is the idea that Sk8er boi is "problematic" like what the hell dude?? This is what she said and I couldn't disagree more with her. That's why i don't like it. The intention behind it it's not to honor a legendary song, it's to "fix it" which is pretty dumb considering there is nothing to fix... "When I was younger, I thought Avril Lavigne was a bad bitch. I knew I wanted to flip an Avril song, and when we looked at the lyrics of ‘Sk8er Boi’, I was like, ‘Love Avril, love everything about her, but the lyrics are a bit problematic!’ Because it’s mainly about ‘Fuck this girl. She doesn’t appreciate my man. Fuck this girl for being into ballet.’ I wanted to update it a little bit and make it about not wanting skater boy. He’s not the prized object in this song, whereas in the original he is". Seriously...i really hate this narrative that sk8er boi is problematic like...seriously, stop, get over it, it has become ridiculous already.... I didn't know that this was her intention for remaking the song 😒 I honestly haven't heard from her before, the song was on my release radar on spotify, so I gave it a listen and thought it was quite clever to flip the story etc.. It's not a song I would go back and listen to on a regular. You're absolutely right, the whole "Sk8er Boi" is a problematic song is bullshit.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Jan 15, 2021 12:36:30 GMT
I don't mind the female empowerment...obviously, we have a great track called Dumb Blonde but what bothers me it's where this all comes from: which is the idea that Sk8er boi is "problematic" like what the hell dude?? This is what she said and I couldn't disagree more with her. That's why i don't like it. The intention behind it it's not to honor a legendary song, it's to "fix it" which is pretty dumb considering there is nothing to fix... "When I was younger, I thought Avril Lavigne was a bad bitch. I knew I wanted to flip an Avril song, and when we looked at the lyrics of ‘Sk8er Boi’, I was like, ‘Love Avril, love everything about her, but the lyrics are a bit problematic!’ Because it’s mainly about ‘Fuck this girl. She doesn’t appreciate my man. Fuck this girl for being into ballet.’ I wanted to update it a little bit and make it about not wanting skater boy. He’s not the prized object in this song, whereas in the original he is". Seriously...i really hate this narrative that sk8er boi is problematic like...seriously, stop, get over it, it has become ridiculous already.... Oh that was indeed very unnecessary I didn't know that For me it was just an homage That's what she's been saying about this track in every interview for months. And she said Avril heard it and approved. But that bit about fixing the song was really not it
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Post by Blackstar02 on Jan 15, 2021 12:39:01 GMT
I don't mind the female empowerment...obviously, we have a great track called Dumb Blonde but what bothers me it's where this all comes from: which is the idea that Sk8er boi is "problematic" like what the hell dude?? This is what she said and I couldn't disagree more with her. That's why i don't like it. The intention behind it it's not to honor a legendary song, it's to "fix it" which is pretty dumb considering there is nothing to fix... "When I was younger, I thought Avril Lavigne was a bad bitch. I knew I wanted to flip an Avril song, and when we looked at the lyrics of ‘Sk8er Boi’, I was like, ‘Love Avril, love everything about her, but the lyrics are a bit problematic!’ Because it’s mainly about ‘Fuck this girl. She doesn’t appreciate my man. Fuck this girl for being into ballet.’ I wanted to update it a little bit and make it about not wanting skater boy. He’s not the prized object in this song, whereas in the original he is". Seriously...i really hate this narrative that sk8er boi is problematic like...seriously, stop, get over it, it has become ridiculous already.... I actually think she made the lyrics worse lol
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Post by ame · 雨 on Jan 15, 2021 12:47:15 GMT
Yeah I know she said she or her team approved it and she "liked" it. BUT we don't really know how the conversation went. It's not the same to say "hey Avril i made my own version of Sk8er boi, you like it?" And she probably said yes. It's a whole different thing to say "Hey Ramona, probably Melissa...Sk8er boi?? that's offensive just so you know. LIKE, really problematic, what were you thiking gurl? anyways, I re-made the song and fix it, next time hope you'll be more considerate with single moms that doesn't skate ok??, you like it, right?"
Ok, maybe the second part was a parody, but i don't think she told her she thought the song was problematic. In fact I don't think Avrils herself thinks that sk8er boi is problematic lol....she wouldn't sing the song basically in every concert. But yeah...
she could've written the song to a different melody and would probably couldn't care less about it, but it's the fact she was trying to make some kinda of statement fixing a problematic song. Maybe her intentions weren't evil but....i don't think a true fan would take an avril song and try to "fix it". At least not to this degree.
Imagine i'm an aheist and i take HAW and change the whole chorus which is basically more christan than a lot of christian songs. I would be destroying the message of the song. And of course there's some lyrics about Avril I don't like...and i would personally change, BUT it's not my place to "correct" or "discipline" a legendary artist like Avril. Smile is literally more problematic than sk8er boi. Girlfriend for instance as well is more problematic, at least the music video. (i don't think it is...but i was trying to follow their logic). So yeah, i don't like the song, i really hope Avril would stay as far as possible from anything related to this.
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Post by rosegold on Jan 15, 2021 13:21:38 GMT
I don't care for the L8er Boi song, and I definitely don't care for the meaning she tried to inject into it. First of all, her claims about the original Sk8er Boi are just... false? She's saying in the original song Avril's message was "FUCK THIS GIRL, FUCK BALLET", and that's just not true. The only thing she actually does say is that the girl didn't see the guy for the person he was and let herself be too influenced by her friends' opinions of him, and thus ended up losing him for someone who actually valued him beyond his looks and genuinely wanted to be with him. I can't find anything problematic about that message at all -- it's a rather nice and realistic message, imo, something that actually happens to a lot of people.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 15, 2021 13:42:10 GMT
Regarding "L8r boi"....ahmm...ew (?) .__. Like...ok, i get the whole independient woman theme which is ok i guess, but it's basically has nothing to do with the original song. and obviously it doesn't have to BUT it seems like it somehow she twisted it's messsage in a very unpleasant way....maybe that's because i am fan idk...but i didn't like it at all. The instrumental is pretty cheap...or at least, not MY taste. idk. The song is pretty gross as well...like seriously, hearing sk8r boi chorus with "Five years from now in a beautiful home. Somebody else is makin' her moan. Skater boy is alone, with his hand on his balls".....it just made SO uncomfortable....BUT idk... i guess everyone has a taste and that's ok...but i personally hated it sorry :// I really hope she doesn't appear in the music video for a song like that.., but that's just MY opinion... Agree. What a bastardization of an iconic song. I was never a mega fan of Sk8er Boi, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just not my absolute favorite from her, but Avril's version is miles better than whatever this disgusting trash is. Can't believe she signed off on it. And I hope she will have nothing to do with the video or promoting it on her own social channels. The instrumental sucks too. My ears have been assaulted. And yeah the whole narrative is stupid. Unfortunately this is what new wave feminism is - tearing men down for no explicable reason and calling it "female empowerment." There's nothing in the original song that indicates anything about the guy being problematic in any way. It was about 2 kids who loved each other but came from different worlds and the girl felt she couldn't be with him because of what her friends would say. She was too shallow and cared more about what her lame friends thought than be with the person she loved. If anyone's problematic in the song, eh, it's her? Fuck this cover lmao
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Post by HeiBai on Jan 15, 2021 16:49:24 GMT
What do you think of this remake of "Sk8er Boi" by Ashnikko called "L8r Boi" that came out today? I think it's quite clever. Yikes. I couldn't get through more than half of it. Maybe even a quarter? Sorry. Ashnikko confirmed a video for this song and she wants Avril in it too. That would se so cool and nostalgic And she said Avril heard it and approved. But that bit about fixing the song was really not it If Avril's smart she stays far away from this right now. It'd alienate some people if she promotes this I think. I guess almost half the possible audience could feel a bit unjustly attacked? Would be shooting herself in the foot very hard now that Flames is getting some positive traction.
I really hope she didn't actually hear and approve this herself.... Agree. What a bastardization of an iconic song. I was never a mega fan of Sk8er Boi, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just not my absolute favorite from her, but Avril's version is miles better than whatever this disgusting trash is. Can't believe she signed off on it. And I hope she will have nothing to do with the video or promoting it on her own social channels. The instrumental sucks too. My ears have been assaulted. And yeah the whole narrative is stupid. Unfortunately this is what new wave feminism is - tearing men down for no explicable reason and calling it "female empowerment." There's nothing in the original song that indicates anything about the guy being problematic in any way. It was about 2 kids who loved each other but came from different worlds and the girl felt she couldn't be with him because of what her friends would say. She was too shallow and cared more about what her lame friends thought than be with the person she loved. If anyone's problematic in the song, eh, it's her? Fuck this cover lmao This is where I'd spam my flames emoji. If there was one.
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Post by eismann on Jan 15, 2021 16:49:39 GMT
Wow, some of you guys are as sensitive as these "new wave femimists" you apparently all dislike. Just because someone criticises Avrils lyrics. With other songs you always praise how it is open for interpretation but if someone interpreted the lyrics of Sk8er Boi in a different way than you, you get all mad. Apparently Avril said yes to this cover song, so she surely wasnt offended by it. No need for you all to defend her lyrics or talk trash about that singer and feminism in general. Makes you look bad tbh.
On topic: Do we have any confirmation about Avril working with Travis Barker? Because he worked with Modsun and maybe she was just there? Like did you like any comment on Insta about a collaboration or why are we so sure it's happening?
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Post by biggerwow on Jan 15, 2021 17:17:15 GMT
Wow, some of you guys are as sensitive as these "new wave femimists" you apparently all dislike. Just because someone criticises Avrils lyrics. With other songs you always praise how it is open for interpretation but if someone interpreted the lyrics of Sk8er Boi in a different way than you, you get all mad. Apparently Avril said yes to this cover song, so she surely wasnt offended by it. No need for you all to defend her lyrics or talk trash about that singer and feminism in general. Makes you look bad tbh. On topic: Do we have any confirmation about Avril working with Travis Barker? Because he worked with Modsun and maybe she was just there? Like did you like any comment on Insta about a collaboration or why are we so sure it's happening? He posted this with Avril in the studio. I think the later boi convo is off topic too 😅 fits better in the random thread but here's my two cents. I'm sick of people criticizing SB online and think this alternate version is trash. It's a good parody song tho.
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