Leaked Songs Discussion Thread

Bright, Lights Out and Lucky Ones >>>>> Love Me Insane, Goddess and Bigger Wow

She could easily add 2 more songs if she doing story and if she using 12 songs ( because 6 first half of story and 6 second half) just make it with 14-16 songs 😅 So she could leave all original there and just add Lucky Ones and Lights Out or whatever and won’t be any problem 😊 sorry just back then after 5 years break Avril why'd you have to make things so complicated? With LS as well.

Honestly I think Lights Out and Lucky Ones are two of the best songs she’s ever recorded and it’s SO sad she didn’t include them. I wish she’d ditch the whole attitude about wanting to have had a big hand in writing every song she releases - fine if she was a great songwriter but she isn’t - so when you get great songs like those two, stick them on the album! I honestly don’t care who writes her songs as long as they’re good.

It’s also an absolute travesty Joker didn’t make LS but LIWYHM did but I’ll leave that rant for another day

It's so weird to read people saying she should accept songs she didn't write at all when one of the main things people liked about her and that made her special when she debuted was that she did write her own stuff. People loved that her music was really hers and it was honest and real. It even helped change the pop landscape. Her effect was so big it became the norm that female singers would write for themselves instead of just being mouthpieces for other people's words. Now everyone's like "who cares, I just want to hear a catchy song and hopefully it'll be a hit."

I think aside from the fact Avril wants to have a hand in the writing because it feels more personal but also probably because it's sort of a flex/bragging right to say she has writing credits on every single one of her songs, I think she also does it because she can get more royalties if she's a writer and not just the performer. There is a probably a business reason behind why she does it. I also think to her it's always felt disingenuous to sing something somebody else wrote - I don't think it's a bad thing to sing a song you didn't write (loads of artists do it and it doesn't mean they don't relate to the song or feel what it's about), but that might be how Avril feels. She said it pretty early in her career that she didn't want to sing stuff other people wrote and that she wanted to write about her own experiences. But I agree if she's going to insist on writing all her songs she needs assistance with the lyrics sometimes.

Of course.

I always think of:


Let down your defenses
Use no common sense
If you look you will see
That this world is a beautiful
Accident turbulent succulent
Opulent permanent, no way
I want to taste it
Don't want to waste it away

and I compare it to anything Love Sux, even great songs like Avalanche, are poor lyrically. And every time I hear some nice parts like "Just admit it you're an as**ole, living in a castle" and stuff like that, I always think of Modsun because his songs are always pretty smart in lyrics and I know it's not Avril's dictionary.

I think the songs are fine, but listening to them back to back they all start sounding the same... generic, dated pop songs. HAW definitely has a problem with the back half of the album, but I like the jazz vibe she went with over these. I agree Bigger Wow should have been cut, but I think the rest of the album has it’s identity that these wouldn’t have contributed anything special to. I would have preferred more songs like Warrior, IFILWTD, Souvenir, and the country tracks she wrote with Chad with herself and Lauren producing, but yeah I definitely prefer what we got over more Bebe Rexha sounding pop songs. That said, I would take those over Love Sux pt 2, lol