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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 23:55:28 GMT
I just thought, when was th elast itme we even heard her utter the worlds Under My Skin, The Best Damn Thing, Goodbye Lullaby, Self Titled? I know im a fairley nwer fan then most of you but from whati can find from HAW era to today, is her talking about LG, LS< and HAW, and thats it
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 11, 2023 23:56:00 GMT
I didn’t say anyone here mentioned UMS 2.0, but I see those comments all over her social media whenever she talks about new music, it’s what most of her fans say they want her to make music like, or when she asks for song requests in concert half the time they’re requesting Nobody’s Home. The fandom is obsessed with that album and clearly want her to make another album that’s similar or bring back those songs in concert, and tbh I just get tired of seeing it because I think that album is incredibly overrated in her discography. I just don’t understand the extreme obsession with it.
It would make sense to bring back the UMS singles in concert IF she’s planning on celebrating the anniversary next year like she did with LG, otherwise we really don’t need an already short and old singles-filled setlist being taken up by B-tier songs like DTM and He Wasnt that have already been performed tons of times. I thought people were suggesting she incorporate those into the setlist outside the context of it being the anniversary.
As far as her doing anything heavier or darker for the next album, I think it would make sense if she plans to write songs about the breakup with Mod and it would be a nice change of pace from LS. But I’d want to see something more modernized like Eyes Wide Shut, not a 2004 rock sound that would sound soooo outdated. And please more variety than UMS, part of the reason I don’t like that album is it’s so damn monotonous. It’s like the same sounding song the whole album apart from a few upbeat songs, it’s just depressing to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 23:57:35 GMT
Also am I the only one that is sceptical about her having been wanting to do a heavy pop-punk record but being contested by the label? How does that even match up with the current timeline of events that we're aware of? Assuming that she had the creative liberty she wanted while doing UMS and TBDT we're only left with GL era and onwards... but didn't she intend GL to be an acoustic driven album all along? I also doubt that pop-punk was the direction for HAW which just basically leaves us with the self-titled record... I remember her saying something about it during her HAW era i think with Zach Byan whatever his name was? That she wanted to do a heavy pop punk record. Also i think self titled was suppose to be entirely different but got butchered by the label |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 23:58:44 GMT
I didn’t say anyone here mentioned UMS 2.0, but I see those comments all over her social media whenever she talks about new music, it’s what most of her fans say they want her to make music like, or when she asks for song requests in concert half the time they’re requesting Nobody’s Home. The fandom is obsessed with that album and clearly want her to make another album that’s similar or bring back those songs in concert, and tbh I just get tired of seeing it because I think that album is incredibly overrated in her discography. I just don’t understand the extreme obsession with it. It would make sense to bring back the UMS singles in concert IF she’s planning on celebrating the anniversary next year like she did with LG, otherwise we really don’t need an already short and old singles-filled setlist being taken up by B-tier songs like DTM and He Wasnt that have already been performed tons of times. I thought people were suggesting she incorporate those into the setlist outside the context of it being the anniversary. As far as her doing anything heavier or darker for the next album, I think it would make sense if she plans to write songs about the breakup with Mod and it would be a nice change of pace from LS. But I’d want to see something more modernized like Eyes Wide Shut, not a 2004 rock sound that would sound soooo outdated. And please more variety than UMS, part of the reason I don’t like that album is it’s so damn monotonous. It’s like the same sounding song the whole album apart from a few upbeat songs, it’s just depressing to me. Yeah when i mention UMS 2.0 i really mean like heavier darker sound like that. Not copying that directly but so many people on SM seem to want a legit sequel to a 20 year old album. |
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Post by orangesky on Nov 12, 2023 0:00:04 GMT
I don't think she meant that she had hard plans to make GL, AL or HAW punk pop records specifically but she always wanted to make a record like that at some point. Considering they wouldn't let her do 1 song like that on any of those albums and that sound wasn't being played on radio any more she knew there was no chance.
As far as UMS goes and doing a heavier or darker record I don't think we can decide anything based on her recent albums. Just because she hasn't done that sound since UMS doesn't mean it can't feel right for her to do it now. It just depends what she's feeling right now and where she's at musically and emotionally
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 12, 2023 0:03:59 GMT
I just hope nobody sets their expectations so high that if she ends up not doing a rock album or an anniversary edition of UMS that fans don’t get mad at her.
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Post by aia on Nov 12, 2023 0:06:33 GMT
What happened at the CMA's? I heard nothing about it besides some Hulu ads But I do agree i dont even take thwme seriously theyre jokes. Just like whatever the fuck you wanna like awards dont mean shit Just insane winners. Lainey Wilson winning entertainer of the year. Morgan Wallen snubbed again because they don’t like something he said years ago despite dominating the charts for the last few years (but they’ll still invite him because he brings them views). Luke Combs winning song of the year with a cover song. Pure popularity contest, but popularity with the judges not the public (I love all those artists btw, so no bias here haha, it’s just ridiculous) It's surprising Kelly Clarkson got nominated for Grammy 2024, but of course she's quite big in the USA with her show. Avril should start a show or date Hollywood actor if she wants to get nominated in Grammy. Even she was bigger in the USA during Avril Lavigne (2013) era than Goodbye Lullaby, because she dated Chad back then. |
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Nov 12, 2023 0:08:39 GMT
I didn’t say anyone here mentioned UMS 2.0, but I see those comments all over her social media whenever she talks about new music, it’s what most of her fans say they want her to make music like, or when she asks for song requests in concert half the time they’re requesting Nobody’s Home. The fandom is obsessed with that album and clearly want her to make another album that’s similar or bring back those songs in concert, and tbh I just get tired of seeing it because I think that album is incredibly overrated in her discography. I just don’t understand the extreme obsession with it. It would make sense to bring back the UMS singles in concert IF she’s planning on celebrating the anniversary next year like she did with LG, otherwise we really don’t need an already short and old singles-filled setlist being taken up by B-tier songs like DTM and He Wasnt that have already been performed tons of times. I thought people were suggesting she incorporate those into the setlist outside the context of it being the anniversary. As far as her doing anything heavier or darker for the next album, I think it would make sense if she plans to write songs about the breakup with Mod and it would be a nice change of pace from LS. But I’d want to see something more modernized like Eyes Wide Shut, not a 2004 rock sound that would sound soooo outdated. And please more variety than UMS, part of the reason I don’t like that album is it’s so damn monotonous. It’s like the same sounding song the whole album apart from a few upbeat songs, it’s just depressing to me. I will tell you why this album is so loved by her fandom. Its her best work in therms of production. Alternative rock suits her voice very well. A lot of people notice it when they listen to her whole discography. The best album in therms of lyrics is Let Go. The best one in therms of instrumentals/production is Under My Skin. Her most solide/coehesive mature albums. The rest is basic and predictable. Her most authentic albums are the LG, UMS and TBDT. Its kinda bizarre seeing you call UMS overrated while Goodbye Lullaby, Self titled album exist on her catalogue. |
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Nov 12, 2023 0:16:24 GMT
Just insane winners. Lainey Wilson winning entertainer of the year. Morgan Wallen snubbed again because they don’t like something he said years ago despite dominating the charts for the last few years (but they’ll still invite him because he brings them views). Luke Combs winning song of the year with a cover song. Pure popularity contest, but popularity with the judges not the public (I love all those artists btw, so no bias here haha, it’s just ridiculous) It's surprising Kelly Clarkson got nominated for Grammy 2024, but of course she's quite big in the USA with her show. Avril should start a show or date Hollywood actor if she wants to get nominated in Grammy. Even she was bigger in the USA during Avril Lavigne (2013) era than Goodbye Lullaby, because she dated Chad back then. Maybe she should start making relevant and good music. |
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Post by afonso16 on Nov 12, 2023 0:18:21 GMT
I don't think she meant that she had hard plans to make GL, AL or HAW punk pop records specifically but she always wanted to make a record like that at some point. Considering they wouldn't let her do 1 song like that on any of those albums and that sound wasn't being played on radio any more she knew there was no chance. As far as UMS goes and doing a heavier or darker record I don't think we can decide anything based on her recent albums. Just because she hasn't done that sound since UMS doesn't mean it can't feel right for her to do it now. It just depends what she's feeling right now and where she's at musically and emotionally The self-titled record literally has Bad Girl which is a song that not only is probably the "heaviest" song of her career, but is also anything but radio friendly. What I remember is her saying that she couldn't do it because of the label which to me implies that she had plans to do it. I may be remembering it wrong though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 0:19:00 GMT
It's surprising Kelly Clarkson got nominated for Grammy 2024, but of course she's quite big in the USA with her show. Avril should start a show or date Hollywood actor if she wants to get nominated in Grammy. Even she was bigger in the USA during Avril Lavigne (2013) era than Goodbye Lullaby, because she dated Chad back then. Maybe she should start making relevant and good music. She does. Also chemistry didn’t even do that well… legit the only reason she still somewhat popular is cuz of her show. Her Spotify streams are way way less than Avril |
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Post by afonso16 on Nov 12, 2023 0:22:04 GMT
I didn’t say anyone here mentioned UMS 2.0, but I see those comments all over her social media whenever she talks about new music, it’s what most of her fans say they want her to make music like, or when she asks for song requests in concert half the time they’re requesting Nobody’s Home. The fandom is obsessed with that album and clearly want her to make another album that’s similar or bring back those songs in concert, and tbh I just get tired of seeing it because I think that album is incredibly overrated in her discography. I just don’t understand the extreme obsession with it. It would make sense to bring back the UMS singles in concert IF she’s planning on celebrating the anniversary next year like she did with LG, otherwise we really don’t need an already short and old singles-filled setlist being taken up by B-tier songs like DTM and He Wasnt that have already been performed tons of times. I thought people were suggesting she incorporate those into the setlist outside the context of it being the anniversary. As far as her doing anything heavier or darker for the next album, I think it would make sense if she plans to write songs about the breakup with Mod and it would be a nice change of pace from LS. But I’d want to see something more modernized like Eyes Wide Shut, not a 2004 rock sound that would sound soooo outdated. And please more variety than UMS, part of the reason I don’t like that album is it’s so damn monotonous. It’s like the same sounding song the whole album apart from a few upbeat songs, it’s just depressing to me. I will tell you why this album is so loved by her fandom. Its her best work in therms of production. Alternative rock suits her voice very well. A lot of people notice it when they listen to her whole discography. The best album in therms of lyrics is Let Go. The best one in therms of instrumentals/production is Under My Skin. Her most solide/coehesive mature albums. The rest is basic and predictable. Her most authentic albums are the LG, UMS and TBDT. Its kinda bizarre seeing you call UMS overrated while Goodbye Lullaby, Self titled album exist on her catalogue. It is overrated. Her fans have literally not shut up about it in the last decade. GL and AL exist in her catalogue, but they're widely disliked, so idk what's the point. The only reason UMS is so beloved is because of it's sound + her being probably at her peak as a performer during that time + nostalgia. |
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Nov 12, 2023 0:22:39 GMT
I really wish fans would let the UMS obsession go already. You are talking about an album she made literally 20 years ago. If you like that album, then you have it to enjoy as much as you want. Why does she have to try to “recreate” it or make a 2.0 or bring back songs from that album live? I love LG but I’m not asking her to make an album I love from 20 years ago. Nor do I expect she will ever play most of those songs live again. Those albums had their time. You can still enjoy them. New era should be for new music, new sounds. Come on, of course we all know that new era menas new sounds, new music. But she avoids new songs on tour. She prefers old single, so why not bring back old tracks too? She won't give the proper attention to the new era anyways. |
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Post by afonso16 on Nov 12, 2023 0:23:30 GMT
Maybe she should start making relevant and good music. She does. Also chemistry didn’t even do that well… legit the only reason she still somewhat popular is cuz of her show. Her Spotify streams are way way less than Avril i think you have to bear in mind that Kelly is much more respected as an artist than Avril ever was. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 0:24:27 GMT
She does. Also chemistry didn’t even do that well… legit the only reason she still somewhat popular is cuz of her show. Her Spotify streams are way way less than Avril i think you have to bear in mind that Kelly is much more respected as an artist than Avril ever was. That too actually. That too. |
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