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Post by oneofthoseguys on Apr 23, 2024 17:44:14 GMT
Avril's fanbase grew up and her music didn't. That's the main reason why many people stopped following her. I found a pretty interest article about the decline of her popularity during Black Star Tour in Canada which explores the conflict of her image and sound after her teenage years. You can read it here: www.ctvnews.ca/avril-lavigne-experiencing-dwindling-canadian-crowds-1.718136But GL was more matue for her, WTH and Smile were forced singles cant blame that on her. SHe wanted to make GL acoustic way more mature and the label was like Nope Girlfriend 2.0 please. And its weird now because thats what people want to hear from her, the bratty songs HAW got completely ignored, but LS was the comeback apparently after so many years Read the article. It's really interesting and most of the analysis makes sense.
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Post by pllforlife on Apr 23, 2024 21:23:58 GMT
Pink and Beyonce were out before the 2000s.... Taylor Swift's debut was 2006. Kelly Clarkson debuted when Avril did, even slightly before. Again the differences are they continually release music and are in the public eye. Kelly is not that popular at all anymore she’s way more known for her show chemistry did terrible. Pink maybe but Beyoncé started 03 so a year after Avril. I literally said pink and Beyoncé were the exception. Taylor was 06 and didn’t become big until 2012 that’s when she got mainstream big around the same time Avril started falling a bit. Honestly imo her getting sick with Lyme is what hurt her the most cuz that’s right when streaming became massive and she was battling Lyme disease What are you talking about? Chemistry debuted #1 on Billboard and was nominated for a Grammy. Avril hasn't been nominated in over 20 years. Love Suz barely cracked the top ten. Beyonce was in Destiny's Child and already had a massive career before going solo.Fearless and Speak Now all sold and did better than TBDT. At that point Avril was opening for the freaking Jonas Brothers of all people. Before you start arguing with people and jumping topics, get your facts straight. We've all been in Avril fandom way longer than you've probably been alive. All I see is you going after people in multiple responses who all provide plenty of factual responses to why Avril fell off. It's not like this is new to us either. We've been through the dips many times with her career. It's always the same conversation each time, and it always falls on her really not wanting to go to the levels required in songwriting, promotion, social media, etc to be successful. She's cool with where she's at now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2024 21:38:33 GMT
Kelly is not that popular at all anymore she’s way more known for her show chemistry did terrible. Pink maybe but Beyoncé started 03 so a year after Avril. I literally said pink and Beyoncé were the exception. Taylor was 06 and didn’t become big until 2012 that’s when she got mainstream big around the same time Avril started falling a bit. Honestly imo her getting sick with Lyme is what hurt her the most cuz that’s right when streaming became massive and she was battling Lyme disease What are you talking about? Chemistry debuted #1 on Billboard and was nominated for a Grammy. Avril hasn't been nominated in over 20 years. Love Suz barely cracked the top ten. Beyonce was in Destiny's Child and already had a massive career before going solo.Fearless and Speak Now all sold and did better than TBDT. At that point Avril was opening for the freaking Jonas Brothers of all people. Before you start arguing with people and jumping topics, get your facts straight. We've all been in Avril fandom way longer than you've probably been alive. All I see is you going after people in multiple responses who all provide plenty of factual responses to why Avril fell off. It's not like this is new to us either. We've been through the dips many times with her career. It's always the same conversation each time, and it always falls on her really not wanting to go to the levels required in songwriting, promotion, social media, etc to be successful. She's cool with where she's at now. Born 2 months after Let go came out thank you very much. Also Avril never opened for the Jonas brothers they opened for her. Also explain why HAW which was promoted and she went on shows and stuff was ignored, but LS everyone was like OMG AVRIL COMEBACK?!? Cuz people except her to do one type of genre and when she does something new is ignored. I’m sick of people being rude to me on here
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Post by ame · 雨 on Apr 23, 2024 22:15:39 GMT
if i hate something more than complete silence from her is when things turn this way in here :') let's stay united please, we can all agree to disagree on so many topics, or just be less aggressive with each other, also less sensitive too, but i reall hate when things tunr ugly in our fandom when we should be happy to be here, laughing, disscussing weird theories and making the wait less painful.
I want us united :') at the end of the day, it's not such a big deal if we're right or wrong as we're here for Avril and for each others. In my case i don't have friends that share my passion for Avril so coming here and see u all it really makes it easier.
it's not directed to anyone in particular (as i've seen this film before...and i didn't like the ending) lol. love for you all and may God inspire her to make a great AL8. Amen.
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Post by lbs2022 on Apr 24, 2024 3:39:39 GMT
Hi, i feel like i acted to fast and deleted my account as i was very upset. I decided to make.a new one, but i feel very upset how ive been treated by some people on here. I was just expressing my POV of Avril's career and why as someone hwo is younger then alot of you and notice what trends people are listening to now a days. I feel like some peopl eneed to understand it's not just the artist but people just move on to other things other artists a lot more frequently now a days. I don't think we.can blame it all on her as there are many factors and thats what i was trying to say before but i felt disrespected and treated poorly
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Post by Brainwashed on Apr 24, 2024 3:42:26 GMT
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Post by lbs2022 on Apr 24, 2024 3:43:26 GMT
I feel like she had a lot of stuff done earlier and maybe she decided to not to use what she had. She might have changed her mind about the record and started fresh but I'm hoping for at least a single or something by the end of the year, but I have a feeling it might be well into 2025. Im starting to think same proess as last2 albums, single fall album winter 2025, im still hoping maybe something for her 40th birthday
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Post by Gab on Apr 24, 2024 8:30:06 GMT
You guys mightve missed, but theres a lyirc in one fo the songs on the album that goes "i got white bitches on me. Avril Lavigne" The last song of the #1 album in US right now, called "Streets Made me a King" says Avril name, repeated many times during the song: "Don't give a f*ck how good she look, ain't trustin' none of the tings I got white girls on me, Avril Lavigne" Oh okay thank you for explaining. I don't even know who these Future & Metro are, let alone knowing the lyrics of songs included in their album. Anyway yes since they seem to be having popularity in the US it may explain the increase in the streamings. I'm not sure about the meaning of that part of the lyrics though, is that meant to be flattering towards Avril? I wonder if it’s legal to mention another singer in a song, like Avril, or did her team agree to this? 😅 I think it is, I mean it's just mentioning someone. Like in Party in the USA by Miley, she mentions different artists, I don't think her team needed to ask permission.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Apr 24, 2024 11:12:34 GMT
Kelly is not that popular at all anymore she’s way more known for her show chemistry did terrible. Pink maybe but Beyoncé started 03 so a year after Avril. I literally said pink and Beyoncé were the exception. Taylor was 06 and didn’t become big until 2012 that’s when she got mainstream big around the same time Avril started falling a bit. Honestly imo her getting sick with Lyme is what hurt her the most cuz that’s right when streaming became massive and she was battling Lyme disease What are you talking about? Chemistry debuted #1 on Billboard and was nominated for a Grammy. Avril hasn't been nominated in over 20 years. Love Suz barely cracked the top ten. Beyonce was in Destiny's Child and already had a massive career before going solo.Fearless and Speak Now all sold and did better than TBDT. At that point Avril was opening for the freaking Jonas Brothers of all people. Hell yes! and also Kelly had more than 40 different songs performed during her Las Vegas residency (14 shows only, 22 per night) last year. So cool! And yes, Avril Lavigne opened 9 concerts of Jonas Brother's "Burning Up Tour" in 2008 (July, 22 - August, 2) along with Demi. It didn't make any sense at the time because Demi's first album wasn't even released yet and Avril had The Best Damn world tour at big avenues in US that same year. Here's one video of Avril opening for Jonas: Jonas opened 32 shows of The Best Damn Tour in Europe (May 26 - July 9, 2008) while Boys Like Girls was the opening act for the first leg of her concerts in North America (March 5 - April 29, 2008).
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Post by Jinkxx on Apr 24, 2024 11:43:06 GMT
I'm kinda sad we don't hear much, just as BogoGog24 said it would be kind of fair if we would get an update where she is with her music right now. I don't expect her to be at Taylor's level at all but when I saw the news of TTPD being a double album I got enthusiastic and could only think about the fact if Avril was doing such thing for her album, and also just be strict with dates, announcements and such.
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Post by lbs2022 on Apr 24, 2024 12:37:09 GMT
What are you talking about? Chemistry debuted #1 on Billboard and was nominated for a Grammy. Avril hasn't been nominated in over 20 years. Love Suz barely cracked the top ten. Beyonce was in Destiny's Child and already had a massive career before going solo.Fearless and Speak Now all sold and did better than TBDT. At that point Avril was opening for the freaking Jonas Brothers of all people. Hell yes! and also Kelly had more than 40 different songs performed during her Las Vegas residency (14 shows only, 22 per night) last year. So cool! And yes, Avril Lavigne opened 9 concerts of Jonas Brother's "Burning Up Tour" in 2008 (July, 22 - August, 2) along with Demi. It didn't make any sense at the time because Demi's first album wasn't even released yet and Avril had The Best Damn world tour at big avenues in US that same year. Here's one video of Avril opening for Jonas: Jonas opened 32 shows of The Best Damn Tour in Europe (May 26 - July 9, 2008) while Boys Like Girls was the opening act for the first leg of her concerts in North America (March 5 - April 29, 2008). Yeah you I’m just gonna ignore frim now on cuz you’re just an Avril hater at this point so unless you got something positive to say about her dont say anything
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Apr 24, 2024 13:34:48 GMT
Hell yes! and also Kelly had more than 40 different songs performed during her Las Vegas residency (14 shows only, 22 per night) last year. So cool! And yes, Avril Lavigne opened 9 concerts of Jonas Brother's "Burning Up Tour" in 2008 (July, 22 - August, 2) along with Demi. It didn't make any sense at the time because Demi's first album wasn't even released yet and Avril had The Best Damn world tour at big avenues in US that same year. Here's one video of Avril opening for Jonas: Jonas opened 32 shows of The Best Damn Tour in Europe (May 26 - July 9, 2008) while Boys Like Girls was the opening act for the first leg of her concerts in North America (March 5 - April 29, 2008). Yeah you I’m just gonna ignore frim now on cuz you’re just an Avril hater at this point so unless you got something positive to say about her dont say anything ?
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Post by Anti on Apr 25, 2024 3:01:44 GMT
But GL was more matue for her, WTH and Smile were forced singles cant blame that on her. SHe wanted to make GL acoustic way more mature and the label was like Nope Girlfriend 2.0 please. And it’s weird now because thats what people want to hear from her, the bratty songs HAW got completely ignored, but LS was the comeback apparently after so many years Read the article. It's really interesting and most of the analysis makes sense. What's even more intriguing is that 12 years later, despite not producing any more major radio hits or albums, she has managed to sell out all the same arenas she once struggled to fill during the Black Star tour (as highlighted in articles like the one shared). And now, she's gearing up to do it again with the Greatest Hits tour 😉 She has built a legacy
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Post by gabbox on Apr 25, 2024 10:37:47 GMT
I haven't heard all the discussion which doesn't seem completely related to AL8, my eyes just read "Avril opened 9 Jonas Brothers concerts", I actually didn't know, I just remembered the opposite: the Jonas Brothers opened all or almost the shows of the Best Damn Tour European Leg. When I saw Avril in Milan in 2008 JB opened her show, then she came.
As far as updates, I wish we can have something. I bet next updates will be tour reharsal IG stories.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Apr 25, 2024 14:29:27 GMT
I haven't heard all the discussion which doesn't seem completely related to AL8, my eyes just read "Avril opened 9 Jonas Brothers concerts", I actually didn't know, I just remembered the opposite: the Jonas Brothers opened all or almost the shows of the Best Damn Tour European Leg. When I saw Avril in Milan in 2008 JB opened her show, then she came. As far as updates, I wish we can have something. I bet next updates will be tour reharsal IG stories. Oh yeah, as I said: "Jonas opened 32 shows of The Best Damn Tour in Europe (May 26 - July 9, 2008) while Boys Like Girls was the opening act for the first leg of her concerts in North America (March 5 - April 29, 2008)". Here's some pictures: avrilbandaidsfrance.com/thumbnails.php?album=2568
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