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Post by zpetspey on Mar 12, 2017 14:21:18 GMT
Cliff downloaded some old videos and wrote interesting descriptions yesterday. This was one year before LET GO was released. We arrived in our glorious accoms in Manhattan, because Judy Lavigne couldn't deal with Avril. Hence, why her brother was with us and not her mother.if her Mother was there, Avril never happens, that's a fact. We had TOTAL freedom. Brian meets Avril w Cliff Fabri. Avril - Matt - Cliff - NYC. As you can tell from the accoms , hadn't received funds yet. This is 15 mos before release of 'Let Go'. We had to rush to NYC because we we're already sneaking around John Lavigne. Judy making sure the bank Acct was from Ottawa. At the time Avril and Judy couldn't co-exist. If this one thing didn't happen, it never happens. Having the freedom with her brother Matt was key. Avril's misbehaving, Matt, take care of it Matt Lavigne was a great kid. Avril was not. She was corrupt when I met her, it was cute then. It then became, not so cute. Not when I was there. When I left, it was Avril's truth. Not a lot of facts. A lot of alternative facts, it then became a major problem for a lot of folks. This tornado was out of control. And it was a monster. 20 million records
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 12, 2017 15:22:00 GMT
The videos are interesting, but what's with this weird obsession with Avril's early career from him all of a sudden? It's weird. And his "descriptions" are very weird, talking about Avril being a bad kid, not being able to live with her mom, etc. That's kind of personal details that he shouldn't be talking about.
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Post by eismann on Mar 12, 2017 15:25:16 GMT
Can someone save these videos before he takes them down? I didn't have time to watch it all now but I'm sure it's interesting. Not sure what the last caption is supposed to mean though..?
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Post by sliperslip on Mar 12, 2017 15:30:03 GMT
if he will ever get over Avril? dude they dismissed you get over it already, it's like he is obsessed with her, 15-17 years passed and he is still so angry or what? I do believe with Avril he thought he will become something also, but Cliff bro if you are that good find another singer and make her a superstar. And all this weird descriptions right before her new album is coming, what's next clip, Avril having fun in her room, Cliff: Avril did murder someone, but we didn't tell Judy, Matt took care of it.
and who was the best friend with their mom at the age of 15, c'mon dude, everything he says is way too exaturated.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 12, 2017 15:39:28 GMT
I'm getting the sense that because Avril has a new album on the way that he thinks he can capitalize on it by revealing this "never before seen" pre-fame footage. There is clearly some kind of loophole he's getting around, because he shouldn't be doing this without her permission. It's kind of creepy honestly.
No idea what he is talking about in the last caption with "Avril's truth" and "alternative facts." We all know Avril wasn't a well behaved kid growing up, she might have even stolen or tried to steal a car once (she alluded to this in an interview once and said she couldn't talk about it). He's implied many times that this record deal was what saved her life because I guess it gave her a purpose in life. She didn't like school so she got into trouble a lot. The owner of the restaurant that she worked at (the one in My World) said she was lazy and didn't do anything while working there. When a teenager is acting like this, it can start to become a huge problem, especially if they end up in juvenile hall or arrested. She could have ended up going down a very wrong and very dangerous path if this record deal never happened. Her mom was probably super frustrated dealing with her because she didn't know what she could do to make Avril grow up. The record deal gave her something to do with her life.
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Post by zpetspey on Mar 12, 2017 15:41:52 GMT
Can someone save these videos before he takes them down? I didn't have time to watch it all now but I'm sure it's interesting. Not sure what the last caption is supposed to mean though..? saved them, don't worry The owner of the restaurant that she worked at (the one in My World) said she was lazy and didn't do anything while working there. Do you talk about film "Skater Girl"?
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Post by sliperslip on Mar 12, 2017 15:52:59 GMT
as a teenager I was a fucking trouble and done a lot of stupid shitt,I don't agree that bad teenager ends up with a miserable life or a bad life, just 5% kids like me ends up doing really bad in life, things turn around when you get older and everything gets better. Without record deal or being a singer, I doubt that she would be some failure in life now. Way to exaturated to say "I saved 15 year old kid a life", cuz she wasn't excited to work at restaurant, oh c'mom, she wasn't a gang member and killed half of Napanee
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 15:58:16 GMT
i don't find it weird. the fact Avril was a "bad" kid hardly is a secret or "personal". he praises Matt in addition to what he already had said before about conflicting Avril with her mom. But i don't get it - he played those videos on his TV and recorded this on camera? He doesn't search for easy ways. xD Maybe he is obsessed. But it's understandable - she was part of his life and that part was exciting. And he did a lot seems for making her what she became. So writing to him "dude, get over it" looks a bit inadequate from a fan side. Could his posts make harm regarding new album? Why? I don't see any connection.
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Post by sliperslip on Mar 12, 2017 16:06:25 GMT
releasing all the clips after so many years and putting in descriptions relationship between Avril and her mom(if this is even true) is unprofessional and not a favor but more like harming, so yes still "dude get over her"... exactly, he WAS part of her life, he is not part of her life for the past 15 years, let it go Cliff let it go
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 12, 2017 16:18:41 GMT
Can someone save these videos before he takes them down? I didn't have time to watch it all now but I'm sure it's interesting. Not sure what the last caption is supposed to mean though..? saved them, don't worry The owner of the restaurant that she worked at (the one in My World) said she was lazy and didn't do anything while working there. Do you talk about film "Skater Girl"? No I read it somewhere. It might have been the daughter of the owner that wrote this or something, I don't remember.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 12, 2017 16:25:40 GMT
as a teenager I was a fucking trouble and done a lot of stupid shitt,I don't agree that bad teenager ends up with a miserable life or a bad life, just 5% kids like me ends up doing really bad in life, things turn around when you get older and everything gets better. Without record deal or being a singer, I doubt that she would be some failure in life now. Way to exaturated to say "I saved 15 year old kid a life", cuz she wasn't excited to work at restaurant, oh c'mom, she wasn't a gang member and killed half of Napanee I'm not saying that it happens to everybody but it very well could have, especially if she really did or try to steal a car. That is already going down a very bad path. Most of the stuff she did like drinking beer on a class trip when she was only a few years away from the legal age anyway or talking in class, skateboarding down the hallway, etc. is pretty dumb and mostly harmless, yes. But when you start fooling with the law like stealing personal property (if that actually did happen), it's not cute anymore. At this point when you are in high school you need to start thinking about what you're gonna do with your life, go to college, get a job, etc. Grow up. Stealing cars and such is not amusing at that age, it's sad. It seemed like she didn't have a lot of direction at that point in her life, she was not interested in school. It's a good thing that the music career worked out for her since that's what she really wanted to do. And I know she would say that if she wasn't a singer, ironically she'd want to be a police officer or something like that, so yeah presumably she would have probably done something else with her life. I'm not saying she would have ended up in jail. But it seems like the music career finally gave her a purpose in life and forced her to kind of grow up.
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Post by sliperslip on Mar 12, 2017 16:46:43 GMT
stealing car ect, are of course not cute ect...but in my opinion when you are 14,15 years old, your actions at this point are not indicator of your life. And when you are a trouble teenager, there is no direction or advice you are willing to listen to by anybody, till you reach the point when you realize by yourself that you are an idiot, then all those directions finally make sense
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 18:46:00 GMT
Cliff has been behaving borderline crazy ever since Avril was in the news for being sick. He has plenty of new talent that he's working with. Why doesn't he focus on making those people huge instead of focusing on the past. A good portion of fans already don't like him, so he's not doing himself any favors by making a bad attempt to defame her right before her new record is about to be released.
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Post by ⋆niki⋆ on Mar 12, 2017 19:14:06 GMT
Can somebody write down her lyrics from Can't Stop Thinking About You? It's soooo sweeet
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Post by pllforlife on Mar 12, 2017 19:17:02 GMT
No wonder Avril canned his ass. He was probably doing creepy shit like filming her all the time. He must not realize this is 2017, we have people like Miley Cyrus telling people to touch her private areas while on stage smoking weed. Like, dude, Avril is fine.
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