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Post by Sara on Feb 1, 2021 18:11:37 GMT
I really don't think Avril says anything publicly about it. Eventually it's something she will discuss privately (rightfully) with her friend.These are delicate and painful situations. Avril worked with Manson, it's true, but frankly I don't think there is all this close friendship between the two. At least that's how it seemed to me over the years.
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Post by gabbox on Feb 1, 2021 18:34:50 GMT
I really don't think Avril says anything publicly about it. Eventually it's something she will discuss privately (rightfully) with her friend.These are delicate and painful situations. Avril worked with Manson, it's true, but frankly I don't think there is all this close friendship between the two. At least that's how it seemed to me over the years. Yes I don't think they're big friends.. but at the same time during the years Avril unfollowed many people on socials who seemed close to her, Manson though, she never. I know socials it's not real life, but considering there are no public photos of them together, their social interaction is the only thing I can see and judge someway. I saw also ModSun follows and likes Manson posts, who knows how they will behave from now on. Anyways, I don't like Manson at all
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Post by katy on Feb 1, 2021 18:37:34 GMT
I find it sad when people are hesitant to believe a woman saying she’s been abused. Like..how would you feel if your daughter said she was raped and nobody believed her? Just read up a bit on Evan and Manson and she’s talked about the abuse multiple times, sometimes under oath, but not named him until now. It’s not like she’s just suddenly decided she was abused.
Always makes me think back to Ian Watkins when his ex girlfriend told the Welsh police he was abusing children and she was basically laughed out the police station because he was a celebrity. Turns out he was raping babies.
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Post by Sara on Feb 1, 2021 18:56:41 GMT
I really don't think Avril says anything publicly about it. Eventually it's something she will discuss privately (rightfully) with her friend.These are delicate and painful situations. Avril worked with Manson, it's true, but frankly I don't think there is all this close friendship between the two. At least that's how it seemed to me over the years. Yes I don't think they're big friends.. but at the same time during the years Avril unfollowed many people on socials who seemed close to her, Manson though, she never. I know socials it's not real life, but considering there are no public photos of them together, their social interaction is the only thing I can see and judge someway. I saw also ModSun follows and likes Manson posts, who knows how they will behave from now on. Anyways, I don't like Manson at all Now I don't remember well, but it seems to me that to record "Bad Girl", they also did it separately and at different times. Then beyond this there is no great evidence of friendship between the two. And as far as social networks are concerned, about who follows whom, it means nothing. In my opinion, Avril's has always been an artistic esteem towards Manson, but far from "close friendship". I have always appreciated particular and original artists, but not Manson. Too controversial. I agree with Bogo that the stage name he has chosen is quite questionable. In light of all this, you ask yourself a few questions, and you begin to give yourself some answers...
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Post by MyHappySk8er on Feb 1, 2021 19:22:57 GMT
Dammit. I can't find the video right now, but there is this one video where Marilyn Manson says that he knows people in gangs and if you piss him off enough he can send some gangsters after you or something like that.
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Post by eismann on Feb 1, 2021 19:23:11 GMT
Yes I don't think they're big friends.. but at the same time during the years Avril unfollowed many people on socials who seemed close to her, Manson though, she never. I know socials it's not real life, but considering there are no public photos of them together, their social interaction is the only thing I can see and judge someway. I saw also ModSun follows and likes Manson posts, who knows how they will behave from now on. Anyways, I don't like Manson at all Now I don't remember well, but it seems to me that to record "Bad Girl", they also did it separately and at different times. Then beyond this there is no great evidence of friendship between the two. And as far as social networks are concerned, about who follows whom, it means nothing. In my opinion, Avril's has always been an artistic esteem towards Manson, but far from "close friendship". I have always appreciated particular and original artists, but not Manson. Too controversial. I agree with Bogo that the stage name he has chosen is quite questionable. In light of all this, you ask yourself a few questions, and you begin to give yourself some answers... It's not 100% clear but I would say it sounds like they recorded his part for Bad girl together www.glamour.com/story/avril-lavigne-interview
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Post by tommygun on Feb 1, 2021 19:26:06 GMT
I remember back in around 2004/5 Manson did an interview with Cat Deeley and she asked him who he prefers Xtina or Avril he said Avril because he knows her and he’s done her make up back then Avril was so young.
It also got me thinking of when Fred Durst was all round her when she first broke out in 2003. The industry has always been filled with this awful kind of abuse and I am glad people are starting to speak out about this.
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Post by gabbox on Feb 1, 2021 19:36:55 GMT
Avril called Manson and he came to the studio with his part to record . She also says they've been "friends for 10 years and in touch"
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Post by gabbox on Feb 1, 2021 19:37:17 GMT
I also found this. "It was midnight, I was listening to Bad Girl in the studio and thought Manson would be perfect in this track. So he said yes I'll come to listen to it and he came at 4 o clock in the morning. It was one of those nights. Yes he shaved my head in Paris after a show"
I also remember this time when she had gone to Paris. It was around AL5 when this happened, 2012, the year before AL5 was out. She had moved to Paris but I didn't like the vibe.. I remember Avril was photographed in a Paris nightclub if I'm not wrong.. she had her head shaved, she was smoking, her look in eyes seemed wasted, of course I'm not saying she was doing anything bad, but I don't know I could feel a bad vibe. Like a girl who spends too much time with wrong people. I didn't like the vibe honestly.
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Post by Meteora on Feb 1, 2021 19:50:47 GMT
now that it's official, I hope she never work with him again or stays in touch. I'm so sad that women had to go through this and that Avril worked with him withouth knowing or even noticing it. It's really really sad when you come to think that you were around this kind of person and you could be one of their victims.
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Post by gabbox on Feb 1, 2021 20:00:32 GMT
I did my research. MM performed in Paris 5th June 2012, Avril was with MM, and after the show, he shaved her head. The first pic with this new haircut appeared one week later at a nightclub. So yes, the timing is correct.
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Post by morphine on Feb 1, 2021 20:09:38 GMT
I think I remember Manson implying that he had sex with Avril in an interview. I'm wrong?. I think it was shortly after 2012 that she shaved her head. I feel pretty bad because I've been a fan of him since I was little.
I always thought he wasn't very sane, but I thought he was more of a character that he created for himself. Since the 90s he had violent behavior even on stage with his bandmates. Also he and his band had sex with groupies on backstage where they cut each other, drugged, tied them up.. so the statements didn't surprise me either.
You also can't wait to date Manson and pretend he's a regular guy who'll buy you chocolates and take you for a walk to the beach.
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Post by gabbox on Feb 1, 2021 20:14:24 GMT
I think I remember Manson implying that he had sex with Avril in an interview. I'm wrong?. I think it was shortly after 2012 that she shaved her head. I feel pretty bad because I've been a fan of him since I was little. I always thought he wasn't very sane, but I thought he was more of a character that he created for himself. Since the 90s he had violent behavior even on stage with his bandmates. Also he and his band had sex with groupies on backstage where they cut each other, drugged, tied them up.. so the statements didn't surprise me either. You also can't wait to date Manson and pretend he's a regular guy who'll buy you chocolates and take you for a walk to the beach. ------------------------------------------------ Manson claims he slept with Lavigne Avril Lavigne hasn't commented on the Marilyn Manson claims August 16 2012 01:02 PM Marilyn Manson has claimed he did date Avril Lavigne. Earlier this year, the 43-year-old rocker slammed rumours he had been in a relationship with the Sk8r Boi star and insulted her country, by implying he wouldn't sleep with her because she was Canadian. But according to Canadian website Spinner, while performing in Canada at Toronto's Heavy TO festival, Marilyn told the crowd he had slept with her, and added: "No offence.... I didn't want anyone to know." In July, the Sweet Dreams singer told UK website Entertainment Wise: "Yesterday I read that I was dating Avril Lavigne, and I was like 'What the f*** was that? She's Canadian, I wouldn't do that.'" Avril has not commented on the claims. ------------------------------------------------ Anyways yes he's not the type of person who buy you chocolate, but as you said I always thought it was a character, now we're finding out he's a raper and even more. and it's not ok. On a musical level, I don't express because I don't know his discography but I don't like him and his voice and his videos always darkened and disturbed me (but that's just me and my personal tastes, no offense to MM's fans.)
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Post by morphine on Feb 1, 2021 20:18:49 GMT
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Post by biggerwow on Feb 1, 2021 20:24:25 GMT
^ min :25
minute 2:25
She wore his shirt on Genius a year ago.
Oh God the chelsea interview with the audience laughing *creeeeepyyy*
Idk if Avril ever felt bad vibes from him. She has a dirty mind so most of the shit he says probably flew over her head. I doubt she'll ever talk about this situation unless some interviewer has the balls to ask her.
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