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Post by katy on Feb 5, 2021 8:13:27 GMT
I think Avril understands perfectly well how Instagram works when it suits her lol, she posts stories all the time. I think other times (mostly in previous eras) she just didn’t care and I really think the lyme concert shitshow changed that a little.
I’d like her to unfollow, but the other two artists I follow who also follow Manson havent unfollowed yet either, so 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by henryp92 on Feb 5, 2021 15:30:38 GMT
I don't have much to add to this thread that hasn't been already say. In regards of Manson, I never liked him, and I don't need any proof of what he did to believe Woods word. I think it is normal that his label drop him, and he will probably get cancelled by the audience. I truly hope he face repercussions for the despicable acts he is being accused for. Hope more and more women (and men) come forward and share their truth about the abuse of power, physical, sexual and psychological, some people have been producing and that the whole show-hollywood business have hid for so many years now.
When it comes to Avril now, I think if she doesn't have anything to say about the topic or add anything new, she doesn't need to say anything at all. If she wants to come forward as a supporter for women rights then OK by me, good for her. But as she has never been very vocal about social problems, I don't think it should be expected for her to do it now. We don't know how or if she is supporting Evan on the background, and maybe she just feel so detached by this incident that took her by surprise and just has nothing to say that actually matter. Her still following him on IG? She probably hasn't even thought about it. Worst case scenario, she thinks "buy he's ma friend". Would I be proud if her? Of course not. But even the worst monster surely has people around that condemn their acts but deep down still care about that person. We just don't know where Avril stands rn, and I don't think she needs to make it public.
When it comes to Avril then, the discussion is stupid. We know nothing about Avrils sexual and personal life. We don't know when she lost her virginity, if she ever slept with Manson, if it was consentual, or how much Avril has enjoyed one night stands. She was not underage when she met him, and as we don't have anything to indicate she was ever molested by him, this shouldn't be even a discussion. We are no one to talk about Avril's innocence, how she enjoys sex, etc. She is a grown woman who doesn't need to tell anyone what she enjoys or what she has done. We should be careful about this serious topic, because hinting at something we have no proof about and talking about her personal life on the internet can be easily misinterpreted somewhere else and cause her a problem.
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Post by katy on Feb 8, 2021 10:15:37 GMT
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 8, 2021 12:57:34 GMT
Yeah the whole thing is just eery. There was something about him that made Avril go “he’d be perfect on this song,” but I doubt she was aware of any of this stuff. So creepy.
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Post by gabbox on Feb 9, 2021 19:27:13 GMT
Yeah the whole thing is just eery. There was something about him that made Avril go “he’d be perfect on this song,” but I doubt she was aware of any of this stuff. So creepy. So true. I want to think Avril thought MM was perfect just because the song talks about a Bad Girl and he had this "bad" attitude, controversial appearance, but just because of his art. I hope and don't want to think she knew anything... Also they were friends, she never had a "big" collab , so she probably thought "he's a big name, he's a friend, he wouldn't say no, he's bad par excellence, he would be perfect" .. I don't know
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Post by eismann on Feb 9, 2021 20:07:59 GMT
Yeah the whole thing is just eery. There was something about him that made Avril go “he’d be perfect on this song,” but I doubt she was aware of any of this stuff. So creepy. There are so so many articles and interviews where he talks a lot about his behaviour and his fantasies. Evan Rachel Wood is posting a lot about it and shares all the articles. But everyone thought that it was not real and just his 'stage-persona'. So no surprise Avril thought he would be perfect for the song. Like everyone she probably (hopefully) wasnt aware that he meant what he said (and worse).
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Post by biggerwow on Feb 9, 2021 20:34:33 GMT
Idk the smashing her head in quote screams he's all kinds of fucked up. No playing a character can excuse that for me.
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Post by gabbox on Feb 10, 2021 0:14:58 GMT
And then we found out “I fell in love with the devil” was written about MM.
Joking of course ! 😂😂😂
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Post by MyHappySk8er on Feb 10, 2021 0:25:56 GMT
And then we found out “I fell in love with the devil” was written about MM. Joking of course ! 😂😂😂 Maybe "Girlfriend" was about wooing Manson.
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Post by chelseafaye on Feb 10, 2021 2:02:03 GMT
*BARF*
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Post by StrongSweet on Feb 11, 2021 5:59:33 GMT
Easy. Did you watch the making of The Best Damn Thing how she is taking over Dr. Luke? I bet Avril can handle based on her past bullying experience.
Also, I don't think Avril would have any comment on other people's life unless it chases her ass so bad like Martin Johnson. Her reaction to others' scandal must be like "that's their shit"
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Post by adamf83 on Feb 11, 2021 11:47:13 GMT
I was just watching an old interview from 2004 and Avril is asked about Manson. She said they have hung out and he's just a normal guy. Really don't think anything sexual went on between them and I'm sure if these allegations against him are true then Avril won't have been aware of them at all.
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Post by slapstick on Mar 19, 2021 14:07:24 GMT
Another controversial figure, coming right up!
Lil Mama finds herself very 'bullied' by Queer community, apparently..
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Post by eismann on Mar 19, 2021 16:15:39 GMT
That is so embarrassing...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 16:59:39 GMT
I was just watching an old interview from 2004 and Avril is asked about Manson. She said they have hung out and he's just a normal guy. Really don't think anything sexual went on between them and I'm sure if these allegations against him are true then Avril won't have been aware of them at all. MM is a monster and there's no other way to put it. I think he really counted on and hid behind the whole "Stage Persona" thing. It got him off the hook a lot. 1 friend even told me the whole evil on stage thing was fake and he has his mansions and money, and it's all an act and nothing more. Obviously it's not. Unlike Alice Cooper, who is a super guy, a great husband, and has a charity and is even a Christian. He even gave up drinking and drugs a long time ago I've read. That's his business but fine. His stage act is totally just an act. He's a super human being who loves people and performing.
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