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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 3, 2021 20:43:16 GMT
I can believe that Chantal was referencing Avril but maybe that is only her assumption about what happened. Unless Avril shared specific details with her about what she was doing, maybe Chantal just assumed something was going on between them just because Avril went to hang out with him a few times.
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Post by eismann on Feb 3, 2021 20:48:07 GMT
I was watching an Instalive last night and Chantal Kreviazuk was the guest, but the MM thing came up and she said 'I know someone, and I can't name names because I'd get sued, but I was working with someone that always went to his hotel room when he was in town, and she was barely/just of age.' She mentioned being pregnant at the time, and that was roughly around 2003/2004 UMS-recording era. Mind you, she did work with a few younger artists around that time after UMS but yeah...the chat comments erupted with Avril's name. Who knows though. I just thought it was interesting. Just a reminder that CK never spoke about sex. It could be assumed but it could also mean heavy drinking or whatever - would it still be inappropriate for MM to invite a young woman into his hotel? Probably. But we dont have to automatically assume the worst. And I hope for Avril that she never a story like that to tell.
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Post by gabbox on Feb 3, 2021 20:50:26 GMT
I can believe that Chantal was referencing Avril but maybe that is only her assumption about what happened. Unless Avril shared specific details with her about what she was doing, maybe Chantal just assumed something was going on between them just because Avril went to hang out with him a few times. Exactly.. I also think CK still holds a grudge with Avril someway, so who knows. Why saying something like this otherwise? Even if you knew? I wouldn't. She stil must be pissed at Avril and has this kind of passive aggressive "I-Know-something" behavior. Unnecessary.
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Post by chelseafaye on Feb 3, 2021 21:13:30 GMT
Just a reminder that CK never spoke about sex. It could be assumed but it could also mean heavy drinking or whatever - would it still be inappropriate for MM to invite a young woman into his hotel? Probably. But we dont have to automatically assume the worst. And I hope for Avril that she never a story like that to tell. No, she didn’t, she just thought it was super weird that she/this girl was hanging out with him, but she couldn’t do much because she was a colleague and not her parent. She really did care about what was going on, but it wasn’t really for her to say what they can and can’t do. She wasn’t trying to be negative about Avril/this girl, but more concerned at that time. You can mention someone you used to be friends with without always dragging them.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 3, 2021 21:18:36 GMT
Avril just posted a bunch of stories with Mod jamming out to Blink-182 on their way to the studio. She doesn’t seem particularly broken up over the situation, I can’t imagine she hasn’t heard about it, but she doesn’t seem to have any particular reaction to it, she looks like she doesn’t have a care in the world right now jamming in the car while driving in the CA sunshine.
I feel like all that probably ever happened between them is exactly what she described - that she hung out with him a few times after his shows and they did their nails or whatever. Maybe/likely some drinking too, but probably nothing more, and thank god for that!
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Post by chelseafaye on Feb 3, 2021 21:21:42 GMT
CK said she was pregnant that period when this young barely of age person went to MM hotel’s room. Can you please tell me if she was pregnant while working with Britney, Christina, Kanye, Pink and their age at the time so that we can easily find who CK was talking about? I didn’t know about these collabs, I thought Avril was her biggest, but if we cross the data of the age and of her pregnancy we can easily find out who CK was talking about It would have been Avril, but it’s just annoying to me that people think that’s her only claim to writing and collaboration notoriety. If remember correctly, Avril was also supposed to be (or is?) Chantal’s first-born’s godmother. I remember seeing that on an ET Canada interview back during the UMS promo era; Avril was holding him and saying it was his first concert (the acoustic mall tour).
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Post by gabbox on Feb 3, 2021 22:05:12 GMT
CK said she was pregnant that period when this young barely of age person went to MM hotel’s room. Can you please tell me if she was pregnant while working with Britney, Christina, Kanye, Pink and their age at the time so that we can easily find who CK was talking about? I didn’t know about these collabs, I thought Avril was her biggest, but if we cross the data of the age and of her pregnancy we can easily find out who CK was talking about It would have been Avril, but it’s just annoying to me that people think that’s her only claim to writing and collaboration notoriety. If remember correctly, Avril was also supposed to be (or is?) Chantal’s first-born’s godmother. I remember seeing that on an ET Canada interview back during the UMS promo era; Avril was holding him and saying it was his first concert (the acoustic mall tour). Oh, I understand, I'm sorry, I got to know about CK thanks to Avril back in the day and I didn't know she had worked with so many big artists. I obviously imagined, but I really wasn't aware of who. That's why I immediately thought of Avril!
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Post by chelseafaye on Feb 4, 2021 1:11:30 GMT
^ No problems gabbox, things are easily misinterpreted on the internet.
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Post by alavigneIE on Feb 4, 2021 15:14:12 GMT
Avril still follows Marilyn Manson on Instagram so she either doesn't want to get involved because it hasn't affected her personally or she just doesn't believe the claims, I guess.
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Post by eismann on Feb 4, 2021 15:34:52 GMT
Avril still follows Marilyn Manson on Instagram so she either doesn't want to get involved because it hasn't affected her personally or she just doesn't believe the claims, I guess. Well, I know some people see this differently but staying quiet / not reacting in any way (= still following him) is a statement itself. There is no way for her to not get involved because she is linked to him (not necessarily to the topic of the abuse but to him). Unfollowing him is the least she should do if she believes the claims are true (and if she wants to remain friends with Zane I guess).
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Post by gabbox on Feb 4, 2021 15:42:01 GMT
She probably will unfollow once the waters calm down.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 4, 2021 15:42:31 GMT
I honestly wouldn't put that much stock in the fact she's still following him. I don't think her mind immediately goes to this place of "Oh, this person is bad, I must unfollow them immediately!" It's not always her who manages her social accounts either, she probably doesn't even remember who she is or isn't following, and she likely comes on to post when she wants to share fun studio bits or whatever, but all the promotional posts for her music and what not is likely done by her team. She probably barely understands how IG even works. The news came out only a few days ago, it may just have not occurred to her yet to go unfollow him and I don't honestly think it says anything one way or the other about how she feels. I'll be more interested to see in the future if she continues to hang out with him, talk about him, or work with him (hopefully none of the above). Also, even though it sounds like these allegations are true, he hasn't been convicted of anything. They've been friends for years and maybe she doesn't want to be so quick to burn a bridge with someone she's known for a long time until she's absolutely certain they did what they are accused of doing.
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Post by biggerwow on Feb 4, 2021 18:32:19 GMT
I definitely think she should unfollow him. I'm sure she's technology deficient but she's done the whole "burning bridges..unfollow" thing before. Although it took her a minute to realize she was following Dr. Luke again but I think that was an accident because he reactivated his account and gained all his follows back.
Anyways, probably in a few days she will unfollow him.
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Post by Sara on Feb 4, 2021 23:43:36 GMT
I wouldn't give much importance to her still following MM on Instagram. It's very likely that she will stop doing it later, but now that the news is everywhere and seems very well founded, that of not having pressed the "unfollow" button yet, seems like: "sorry but I don't want to get involved in this bad story". It relieves me cause these actions, the IG stories, she seems disinterested, and makes me think she had no problems with MM ... thankfully.
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Post by MyHappySk8er on Feb 5, 2021 1:58:32 GMT
She probably barely understands how IG even works. Holy hell. She's such a boomer. In my opinion, she better unfollow soon. Social media can make and destroy someone in this day and age.
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